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April 3rd, 2007
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During the course of this saga I have repeatedly offered to allow a judge to be the arbiter over whether or not my video material has any evidentiary value. Today, you the public have the opportunity to be the judge and I am confident you will see, as I do, that there is nothing of value in this unpublished footage.
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I had wanted to reveal to you, the public, how ridiculous and without merit this matter is, but could not publish this tape until I had received assurances from the US Attorney that it would not be considered partial compliance and strengthen their claims that I might eventually be coerced.
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[...] You can watch the unedited video in question at Wolf’s blog. Wolf writes: During the course of this saga I have repeatedly offered to allow a judge to be the arbiter over whether or not my video material has any evidentiary value. Today, you the public have the opportunity to be the judge and I am confident you will see, as I do, that there is nothing of value in this unpublished footage. [...]
If, as you say, it contains nothing of value then your only possible reason for not turning it over is a desire to be a pain in the ass.
Hope you like jail!
To be an anarchist, the first thing you need to do, is follow the law.
An outlaw is one who obeys the law, and then uses that fact to do whatever they please.
To do otherwise, just makes you a criminal. And if that is the case, you will reap what you sew.
That is rip what you sew. What he is doing is making more work for himself nothing more than wasting his time and others. This is greifing.
Drinks on me, Josh!
Like, anarchy is cool and stuff.
If everybody would just agree with us about anarchy, then like, it would be really neat and awesome.
When you plant seeds you sow them. Galatians 6:7 says “A man reaps what he sows” (harvests what he plants, gets what he deserves). This agricultural metaphor gets mangled frequently into you “you reap what you sew.” At best, you might rip what you sew; but you probably wouldn’t want to tell people about it.
List of errors
Who let you loose on a computer?
The constitutional issues here are clearly flying over your head.
[...] Wolf posted his original video report of San Francisco protests during the G8 Summit in 2005 to IndyBay, and the footage was subsequently picked up by local television news outlets. Wolf has denied all along that any crimes were caught on the tape, and asserted that he felt he was being strong-armed into naming protesters for political purposes. He has already posted the raw footage to his own site, now that it will no longer impact the outcome of his case. [...]
Just stumbled upon this video on Drudge. Awesome, and thanks for the laugh! This video is so funny. Just a bunch of 60’s wannabes trying their very best to get noticed AND get arrested, but nobody cares about them or their wacky ideas.
Use f’ing youtube.
Josh Wolf to go free today…
Josh Wolf, who has been serving the longest jail term ever imposed on a journalist for refusing to cooperate with a court, will be freed today, his lawyer said. News.com reports that Wolf cut some sort of deal with the court to allow him to post the vi…
[...] Josh has also made public the unedited protest video that is at the center of this controversy. [...]
the best part was when the anarchists chanted “down with the police state” while destroying property, and nothing happened to them. way to make your point.
William Post is a little girl
The unfortunate thing is that most of you are correct… in that most of those kids shown (especially in the interviews) do not really understand what anarchism is about. Or maybe they just can’t explain it when being interviewed? Either way, this video is meant as documentation of protest footage. People do it all the time, especially in “activist” circles. I don’t know how many friends that I have had over the years who decided that they wanted to start shooting footage of everthing. But especially when it came to protest footage. Cause why??? There’s always the chance that the beloved and coveted riot porn will be caught on tape. Yeah, and sure, every activist with a camera dreams of identifiable footage of a pig kicking the shit out of a protestor. Josh did the right thing by not turning the footage over to the pigs directly. It was released on network news stations…get the fucking footage from them. As for Josh being a pain in the ass (as the first person suggested), yeah, fuck it. He has the right to keep his personal property. Shouldn’t be imprisoned for it…but doesn’t need to turn it over to the state from himself. It’s a worthwhile issue to resist a kangaroo grand jury over a tape that has been previously disclosed to the public. Way to be a being of principal Josh…Cheers from Tx.
Oh yeah, and I don’t know where all of the responders are from, but here in Texas, cops fracture and split skulls of innocent people on a daily basis. So if someone fractured that fucking pigs skull, was that not a combination of kahrma and self determination of the job to which he voluntarily took? You know, since this fight was over Josh’s refusal to turn over footage of a cop who got a fractured skull. Which there is no existence of in this film, I gotta wonder why the pigs were so convinced otherwise.
Nerdy goth gangsta-wannabees in cowardly masks.
Violent pacifists
Their feral utopia already exists in the wilds of Alaska. They should all move there and live off lichen and berries.
They’re “anarchists” but they used the metro transit system and commercial aviation to get to their targeted victim city.
They are “anti-capitalism” but Wolf openly begs for donations from the teeny boppers’ dads’ capitalistic largesse.
How stupid, this guy went to jail for these assholes.
These ‘anarchists’ are pathetic throwbacks. They can’t even be original. Pitiful. Real anarchists would be embarrassed by them.
And the videographer risked jail for these dopes? Equally pathetic.
Wow…these anarchists who never seem to have jobs nor anything better to do than show up at protests carrying signs, destroying public property and yelling obscenities are probably all being supported by mommy and daddy. Wow…I’m underwhelmed by their commitment to anarchy!
Clearly not many posters here have followed this case or know anything about how and why Josh ended up in jail. Yet, they feel free to spew.
NB: U.S. Constitution, First Amendment
And, with apologies to Martin Niemöller: First they came for the videobloggers, and I said nothing…
Thanks to Josh.
The officers at the end drove at high speed into the crowd of protesters crossing the street, forcing them to leap out of the way to avoid injury
[...] His blog has, now, the video that was one of the sources of debate for his trial. Feel free to make up your own mind about this issue. More information at Wikipedia. These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]
“So if someone fractured that fucking pigs skull, was that not a combination of kahrma and self determination of the job to which he voluntarily took?”
I love when people try to justify senseless, violent acts like this crusader. You did a good job of making a decent point right up until you showed ass.
Gotta love ignorant, violent, spoiled brats crying for the poor oppressed criminals and terrorists. Want to see a police state? Go to Syria or Iran, were you’d be hung or beheaded for protesting your government. Wanna see anarchy? Go to Darfur and be slaughtered by Arab-Muslim militias. “Pathetic” doesn’t quite say it. Go finish your sociology and journalism degrees so you can start repaying your government-backed student loans, morons.
These kids are the products of neglectful parents, public schools and probably broken homes. They can’t even put a coherent thought forth to explain their insipid ideas.
Maybe jail will wake them up from their sheltered suburban utopias and show them that actions have consequences. A lesson obviously not learned at home.
What a bunch of morons.
News to Carogue: Josh ended up in jail because he refused to comply with the law. Only journalists have Constitutional protection to shield their sources. Josh isn’t a journalist, he’s a political ideologue/neo-anarchist activist blogger. He has no journalistic credentials, and he doesn’t work for a real news source. THAT’S why he was in jail.
Read the Wiki: “The Federal prosecutor argues that Wolf does not meet the statutory definition of a journalist (under California law) or a common law journalist’s privilege based on the Federal Rules of Evidence. Further, they argue that even if he did, the protections afforded to journalists would not cover his activities in this case because he merely observed the incidents he recorded in a public place. He did not prompt them, nor did he offer anyone anonymity or confidentiality.”
Question to you: how quickly would Josh have turned the videotapes over to the authorities if they had shown police brutality against innocent protesters? Answer: in a heartbeat. The fact that he didn’t demonstrates his bias.
I don’t find anything noble about covering up a crime or obstructing justice. Even if the coverup is by the biased leftwing media. I don’t have any respect for many of today’s “journalists”. They give no reason to respect them. They are supposed to be NEUTRAL and OBJECTIVE.
If you don’t like organized society, then get out. Go live naked in a cave, let your teeth fall out and crap in the woods. But then again, you wouldn’t get the attention you so greatly desire. Grow up you dorks.
These are the most patient cops I have ever seen in my life. Not because of the insults hurled at them — just at withstanding the inanity of these know-nothings. You went to jail for this? You are a fool. I love to watch college kids who live off of their parents money talk about the world like they know anything about it other than what they read in books. Man, they are going to fell stupid in their 30’s… What are the masks for? So Mom and Dad don’t see them and cut them off?
Hope you enjoyed your stay.
We can’t get into Josh’s blog because the whole world is here! We are having a press conference to day at City Hall at 5PM!
http://freejosh.pbwiki.com/%20%09Press%20Conference%20at%20City%20Hall%20TODAY
[...] After seven months in federal prison, and nearly two weeks after his father began a “non-stop” vigil, Josh Wolf is expected to be freed. Wolf was jailed for longer than any journalist in U.S. history for allegedly failing to turn over video of a chaotic 2005 San Francisco street protest during the G-8 summit to the feds. (He posted the full, unedited video today on his blog, also embedded below.) According to a release form, he handed over the video today and spoke to the prosecution before being freed and he may be subpoenad again. The Committee to Protect Journalists, dissappointed with the feds failure to release Wolf sooner, renewed their call for his release last week. [...]
“What are the masks for? So Mom and Dad don’t see them and cut them off?”
– and because they look all rad and shit, just like their Che t-shirts. Anarchy rules, man! “Smash the Police State!” (throw paint at the PG&E building) “End the War!” (kick over a newspaper rack)
Spoiled, punk-ass losers.
Obscenity is the first option for the feeble-minded and the last resort for an effective communicator. Backlash: the best way to raise their eyebrows is to do it without saying “fuck”. These anarchists could not give a coherent definition of anarchy or their movement with 6 weeks and a cut ‘n’ paste from Wikipedia. They are the same crew with a few replacement players from the WTO riots in Seattle a few years back, and their priorities are to break stuff, make noise, and party down.
They’ll come for the bloggers last since they do nothing harmful, and it takes awhile to find them in their parents basements.
Wow … many of the right wingers who’ve posted here would have fit right in when I was running for president… “love it or leave it” and all of that jingoism the birch society and I ran up the flagpole back in the dark ages still being used … it warms my old dead heart! Long Live the confederacy! GW
“backlash”, do yourself a favor and avoid public forums. You sound embarrassingly simple-minded, uneducated, and–generally–like a moron. It simply isn’t believed by any rational, non-stoned human being with moderate intelligence that “here in Texas, cops fracture and split skulls of innocent people on a daily basis”.
Get off the dope, go finished high school, and do something useful with your life.
Well said, Madjimmy… what I find odd about these “anarchists”, aside from how uniformly unintelligent they are, is that they don’t even seem to understand their own philosophy well enough to realize that they have no grounds for complaining about anything that anyone does, EVER.
If you don’t believe in rules to define behavioral limits, then you can’t possibly expect to be taken seriously when you complain about someone else’s behavior.
This isn’t about “journalists” rights, you’re not even a journalist, but about obstructing justice. A crime was committed and you have potential evidence that you were witholding. Your opinion of whether it has probative value or not is irrelevant (just imagine if you were the one committing the crime, why should anyone trust your review of the evidence). It was a reasonable request that complied within the Constitution’s guarantee against unreasonable searches and seizures.
You are an immature little brat who thinks a lot more of himself than the rest of the world and it’s too bad they’re letting you out.
[...] [ You can watch the video online here: JoshWolf.net ] [...]
The only true anarchist I’ve ever heard about is Algore’s acolyte, The Unabomber, living in his tarpaper shack in the wilds of Montana, thumbing through his scribbled-in-the-margins, dog eared copy of “Earth for the Unbalanced”, and using the central government’s postal system to deliver letter bombs to innocent victims. He walked the walk.
These frauds are merely acting out what their junior college philosophy instructor told them to do.
The next spring break they’ll probably hire an illegal immigrant to stand in for the next feel-good-about-yourself riot so they don’t risk injury to themselves, watch the videotape afterwards, while they party in Cancun.
“The officers at the end drove at high speed into the crowd of protesters crossing the street, forcing them to leap out of the way to avoid injury.”
Obviously not fast enough.
OK, I stumbled across this video, read Josh’s comments and made up my own mind.
Yes I saw crimes being committed. Crimes that could be taken from the tape and used in future criminal trials when and if any of these wanna be 60’s children were caught for other offenses.
Josh had no legal ground to stand on, thus the reason he was in jail for so long. Of he did his lawyer would have been able to get him out within weeks, not almost two years. Oh and how did he get out… he release the unedited video… just like they wanted all along.
Get a life, if you do not like the ones you have here… move to the utopia of Saudi Arabia, Iran or Ethiopia.
What a bunch of pathetic, childish losers. Relying on violence to spread their “peace” bullshit because no one believes their crap otherwise. Attacking America as fascist because we are fighting against…um…fascists. Nice logic, morons.
I wish Wolf had stayed in jail a lot longer. He withheld a videotape for no good reason, just because he thinks the cops asking for his tape makes him Martin Luther King. To these spoiled jackasses, soy lattes at full price is oppression.
Grow up, idiots. The 60s are over and so is your totalitarian dream. No one believes your childish bullshit but your tiny clique, assholes. Try joining the modern world. IE, globalization, capitalism, maybe even actually having a job….
This video just proves what an absolute idiot you are.
George Wallace — you may not like it, but most of us here are solidly on the Left. We just can’t condone assholery on our side either.
DaveS said,
on April 3rd, 2007 at 1:31 pm
“backlash”, do yourself a favor and avoid public forums. You sound embarrassingly simple-minded, uneducated, and–generally–like a moron. It simply isn’t believed by any rational, non-stoned human being with moderate intelligence that “here in Texas, cops fracture and split skulls of innocent people on a daily basis”.
Get off the dope, go finished high school, and do something useful with your life.
Gary S.,
Your presumption and arrogance are showing. How can comment on a situation that you know nothing about? I’ve seen plenty of “cracked skulls” by law enforcement “here in Texas”, deservingly and not. Having Fire/EMS duties grants me a look that you and your cheese and whine club do not get. Don’t presume to know other people or their experiences and please go look in the mirror and judge yourself before you judge someone else. Good day.
[...] Josh Wolf has released the unedited video on his blog, noting, “During the course of this saga I have repeatedly offered to allow a judge to be the arbiter over whether or not my video material has any evidentiary value. Today, you the public have the opportunity to be the judge and I am confident you will see, as I do, that there is nothing of value in this unpublished footage.” [...]
The left-right debate is subterfuge and distraction. Wake up to the Illuminist agenda: Josh’s experience is but a shadow of the totalitarian state we are headed for.
Will I be called a “journalist” like Josh by the mainstream media if I borrow Daddy’s video camera and tape the street voguing of the acolytes of The Church of Feral Communists?
Pfffttt…. They’re just kids. They’ll get real jobs one day and pull their heads out of their asses.
By the way, anyone who want to have a go with the cops get what they deserve
“Only journalists have Constitutional protection to shield their sources. Josh isn’t a journalist, he’s a political ideologue/neo-anarchist activist blogger. He has no journalistic credentials, and he doesn’t work for a real news source. THAT’S why he was in jail.”
There is no constitutional privilege for journalists to protect their sources. This is why journalists at times end up in jail for not revealing their sources. e.g Judith Miller
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Miller_(journalist)
Oh, if only these asses would have been “Kent Stated”.
i can’t get out of a speeding ticket just because i consider myself a nascar driver.
you are not a journalist, and not a martyr to any cause except to the altar of stupidity. you are a martyr in your own head.
you withheld evidence, refused the legal order of a judge, you went to jail, like you deserved, just like anyone else would have deserved. you are not special and do not have special rights because you consider yourself a journalist.
When the Muslims take over England they will make short work of the fake anarchist (communist in disguise)
Come on people, the only reason Josh did this is so he can now pen a book and reap the profits. Makes sense when you consider he can’t get a real job. My only solace is that maybe he had a close relationship with a guy named Bubba in the joint.
I bought me a videocam, I are now a journalist! Puleez. And this video has plenty of evidentiary value; it documented a riot situation in which the police were trapped; if the ass that clocked the cop tries to claim he was acting in self defense, this video has plenty of evidence to the contrary.
So many angry “what-a-bunch-of-losers” voices in here! The anarchists must be doing something right.
Shouldn’t most of you patriots be watching American Idol or something?
Anarchist, schmanarchist.
I hope your book and movie deals tank.
maybe people would respect you, had you gone to jail for a reason.
I didnt see anyone punch a cop here. This video shows nothing. Which demands the question, “why did you go to jail?”
To try to prove that you’re a journalist?
You sure have wasted and will be wasting your precious time supporting these semi-educated bratts, who have no idea what freedom of expression means. In most countries of this world they would be fire-hosed into the gutter by the authorities.It is funny how children ,or the childish lose their cool and start breaking “toys” when mommy ( the cops ) says that it is time to quite playing . Grow up, then express you opinions ,kids, some day you may have to face the world as it really is !
Some sort of moron’o'blog is apparently linking here.
This isn’t even left vs. right. I looked in over at the Free Republic, and several conservatives were defending Josh and understood the issues completely, and know that they could be the next ones called to pass on names to the government, or have to post IP addresses for a wide-net construction of a database of names, justified by some investigation.
George Orwell was an anarchist. A lot of people apparently are very uninformed, and thinking that anarchism means means ‘no laws’. In fact, it generally describes a nonhierarchical form of government where politicians aren’t given special powers which regular citizens aren’t. This government worked after the civil war in Spain, which Orwell fought in, and economic productivity increased as people democratically ran their workspaces.
Bloodstomper — What exactly did the “demonstration” accomplish? No, REALLY. I want to know. What did it do, other than piss off the neighborhood, cost the taxpayers money and vandalize storefronts? Name one fucking thing. Was the war stopped? Was the “police state” ended? Was there any “justice” or “peace” or “freedom”? Of course not. THAT’S why we on the left are pissed off at you losers.
The Church of Feral Communism
Founder: Pol Pot
Most famous American rhetorical proponent: Algore
The only known American who actually lived the feral communist life: The Unabomber, Ted Kazinski
Hypocritical teeny bopper acolytes who pretend at true feral Communism: every bandana-masking Luddite wannabe in this video
When these anarchist (communist) wrest contol of a society they unleash unspeakable oppression and always serve up a good dose of mass murder; see Russia, Cuba, Cambodia, Romania, East Germany…… There is nothing too cruel that you can do to them. Never feel sorry for these “people” , if they had their way YOU would be dead or in a cage! The best way to deal with them is Kent State 1970. Also, the Hell’s Angels put on a good demonstration on how to deal with Hippies using pool cues and knives at Altamont Speedway.
If you are the chief spokesman for your philosphy you’re screwed.How can you profess to believe in a philosophy you aren’t able to even articulate(that means talk about) you’re a bad joke. Why the bandana? If you really believed you would be willing to be identified with your not so clearly understood value system. It makes me want to puke that good men and women died so you could spout this B.S. I’ll bet you drove in a car to the demonstration where you counted on the police to protect you and then went home logged onto your computer and used all the services you rail against. You my friend are a dolt!
WOW “freddymac” you are a moron.
[...] After posting the unpublished video on his Web site (also embedded below), the prosecution announced that Wolf had complied with the terms of the grand jury subpoena, and the judge approved his release. [...]
According to the dictionary, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anarchy
anarchy is defined in four ways.
What the anacrchists believe they want is this:
3. a theory that regards the absence of all direct or coercive government as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and voluntary association of individuals and groups as the principal mode of organized society.
This would, of course, bring this:
2. political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control
And once you had that you would have this:
1. a state of society without government or law.
Which would quickly devolve into this:
4. confusion; chaos; disorder
To which those caught up in the lawless society they have cereated would scream “Why didn’t someone do something?”
2 years?? Thats a cake walk. Try defying a communist court. You’d be put into the prison work force post haste – without the courtesy of even being told the length of your sentence. I didn’t see any police brutality but it would have been sweet and worth watching the long boring clip.
Nothing like a good gathering of ignorant masses. Same kind of people made Hitler.
Josh,
I congratulate you on the recovery of your freedom. That is what it’s all about. The Fed. attempted to use post 9/11 Patriot Act laws in order to create a file on who they thought could be a threat to their regime. San Francisco Police were not going forward with coercing you, they knew it was BS. This was a Federal attempt to usurp California State Shield Law for journalists. It clearly shows that a Federal Shield Law is needed. That you had many months before were willing to show a judge the unedited video while refusing to be questioned shows that you are true journalist. Again, I congratulate you. I hope that I can stand to be a hero for freedom if challenged, as you have.
I don’t agree with the Anarchist Agenda, too many of the weakest in our society would lose big time in the chaos that ensues. I am a yellow dog Democrat. No matter how left I am, I will be voting, and protesting for an agenda that promotes justice.
The most articulate person in your unedited video was shown at the beginning noting that the Transgenderd in Mexico have an 85% unemployment rate. Is it much less different here?
Ken
Liberte, Egalitie, Fraternite, au Mort!
I am amazed at the cowardly bastards that hide their faces and then wait until it is dark to act like the animals they are.
A lot of west cost losers with out a clue as to what life is about.
Yes they have the right to protest. I know because I helped protect that right.
Most of them are a product of our public schools or should I saw government baby sitting service.
It is time they grew up and made something of there lives.
Who are you to decide what has legal value and what does not?
Are you a lawyer, judge, elected official? Granted, it’s your tape – but crimes were committed. If a journalist video taped a murder, should it be their decision to offer up the tape or not? Where do you draw the line? Do you only draw it for things you believe in – ie this demonstration? Would you turn over a video tape of a kid breaking into a soda machine? Or what about the same kid mugging and beating an old woman? It’s either all or nothing. You either respect all laws or you respect none. There is no middle ground.
And these people crack me up … really, they are no better than the people that rioted in LA. “Hey, let’s destroy things that don’t belong to us!”
I really dislike jaywalkers.
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Scott said,
on April 3rd, 2007 at 3:15 pm
Nothing like a good gathering of ignorant masses. Same kind of people made Hitler.
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I’m confused, Scott. Do you mean the anarchists, the people responding to this blog, or both?
Josh, Make any new friends whilst in prison?
Many of the people chiming in here wouldn’t have lifted a finger if they were transported in time and place to the takeover of Greece or Chile by totalitarian rulers after political assassinations in the 1970s.
In fact, they would probably be saying exactly the same things about demonstrators.
Carogue said,
on April 3rd, 2007 at 1:01 pm
“…And, with apologies to Martin Niemöller: First they came for the videobloggers, and I said nothing…”
Thanks to Josh.
Carogue, that is an insult to the millions who perished in the Shoa. Don’t hide behind Martin Niemöller. He was far wiser than you are, and he would not have supported the immature law breakers depicted in the video. When did Josh become a journalist?
This is not about liking any of the people involved.
1.Sure, these kids aren’t the best representation of activism, in fact I find them pretty ridiculous. You have the right to be stupid, some folks above have exemplified this. There is nothing wrong with being an outcast, it is part of the growing process, most people will eventually settle down and learn to compromise enough to be a positive member of a community and those that don’t wil be marginalized and never see their full potential, thus reaping what they’ve sewn. We should protect peoples right to be idiots. In the long run it will make them easier to identify and thus easier to deal with or avoid, your choice.
2. I’m not sure this is about protecting anarchists. It seems to be more about the definition of journalism. Which is more important than it may appear. Josh is asserting his right to be a journalist. Why is he not a journalist and afforded the protections granted to journalists? Do you need to be apart of a major press corp to be a journalist? Why should the government grant privileges to employees of major papers that it won’t grant to it’s own citizens? He is a journalist, he was reporting news he has a right to protected under California’s shield law. A young journalist needs to start somewhere. A narrow definition of journalist/ journalism will ultimately perpetuate a trend towards a state run media. Media that relies on press releases does not serve the public need. Most major news outlets are in fact state run media outlets. Protecting Josh’s right to be journalist, thus granting him the protections afforded to journalists under California law is protecting free speech, the cornerstone of our Democracy.
First, congratulations for finally being released from prison, hopefully, this evening. I think 226 days is, to say the least, a bit excessive for contempt.
I’ve been watching your case, and, I have to say, I have mixed emotions over whether or not I agree with your position that, as a video journalist, you should be guarded from having to turn over your footage by a shield law. I see the argument’s for and the arguments against.
For:
Journalists, whether professional or amateur (i.e. citizen journalists) should be free to gather and report news and newsworthy information and report it in a clear, unbiased manner (it may be just one point, but it’s a the most important one, in a free society)
Against:
Your edited video report, first published on Indybay, is, at best, commentary, not journalism. Indybay is, at best, commentary, not journalism. Both the site and the video, by virtue of the editing process, analyze news, and that is commentary – it is definitely biased, and, arguably, propaganda. Your journalistic credibility is somewhat in question when you report for a paper that is, cover to cover (or web page to web page), a diatribe. Yes, I read it. I also read the Christian Coalition blog. It’s important to understand the sentiments and activities of all political activists, I feel.
Once you sold footage to KRON, you ceased to be a journalist. You became a source.
No one in the video should have expected anonymity. It’s easy to see who wanted it – they had their faces shielded. Unless you specifically grant anonymity, none is implied (this is per the Society of Professional Journalists Code of Ethics – I went to Journalism school too). Especially if you’re in a public street, and you know you’re being filmed, and you say nothing.
I’m confused as to why you would now post the raw footage on your website, if your point was to keep it out of federal prosecutors’ hands. It’s in their hands now, isn’t it? They can just as easily lift faces from your posting as they could have from your footage.
You posted it asking for us, the public, to now be the judge. As my uncle would say, opinions are like assholes – everyone’s got one – my opinion is you wasted 226 days when you could have been out covering the escalating Iraqi war protests, the plight of the homeless in San Francisco, and other information that would be important to gather and report to the public. You made your point, but I think you let us down, a little. I’d rather have seen more of your video blogs.
Take it for what it’s worth.
I do hope you will take your notoriety and parlay it into a long and prestigious career as a journalist. Or a commentator. Or an analyst.
Just pick ONE, though. Can’t do both at the same time and be ethical.
Peace.
Heavy sigh…
I admire Josh’s ideological stand, but his utter lack of pragmatism renders him subject–quite rightly–to being regarded as a sophomoric knucklehead. Seven and a half months for this? For these idiots?
Frankly, this exhibition of childish churlishness (”fuck yeah!”) is exactly why, after 18 years in the City, I took my little kids back east where protest is not pageantry, and people take the time to know what they’re talking about before they take to the streets and undermine the cause the espouse.
This video could just as well be coverage of a Critical Mass bicycle snit as an act of legitimate civil disobedience.
I’m sorry you missed the point Josh. For, in so doing, you pissed away 1% of your life.
Pity.
Due to Craigslist advertising, downloading, and low newspaper sales because of the internet, paid journalists are being laid off in droves.
If being employed is the constitutional definition of ‘the press’, then soon the numbers of people defined as journalists will be mighty small, and hardly anyone will have freedom of the press.
Josh
You have a right not to show the judges anything. I admire your ideological stance. Unfortunately, we live in an age where a simple protest is seen as criminal. Sorry you had to endure prison for nothing more than standing up for you right to be an American. This kind of thing happens in the Middle Eastern countries. It should not happen here.
Most of the people who have commented here don’t seem to understand that.
Best.
I’m amazed at the reactions people have to this video.
Kids have a right to be kids. They have the right to make mistakes and to speak out regardless of what you think of their ideas.
What makes you think the ideas you base your life on are so great? So much better?
Do you even know what you believe in, you arrogant pricks?
Have you eliminated hypocrisy in your life? No, you haven’t. So quit throwing stones, fool.
And is there a single thing in your life you would really be willing to go to jail for 7+ months for?
Some of you are talking about the constitution and how these “anarchists” or whatever they call themselves have every right to protest and they do. BUT they do not have the right to vandalize public property or protest in an unapporoved place. But thats not the issue here.
I saw one post where someone blamed the feds and the Patriot Act for Josh spending so much time in prison. This is wrong. In 1970 the Supreme Court ordered that journalists are not protected.
I don’t think any of these retards should be protected with anonymity. I think they are a waste of space. Everyone has the right to express thier beliefs, but when you abuse the system and damage PUBLIC property, or you film these losers and refuse to help the government regulate criminals like them, yes I said criminals, then yes you Josh should be punished as should they.
I am glad that Mr. Wolf (just like Ms. Miller before him) realized that he is not above the law, and cooperated with the legal authorities. It was the right thing to do (albeit very belated).
[...] You can see Wolf’s raw footage here, as he’s decided to release it to the entire Internet. [...]
If at your protest you didnt notice you were documenting crimes (albiet as small as they appear) it is your lose, in this case 270+days of you life. In my life i have come across law inforcement that are both good and dubious, with an overwhleming amount just trying to do the right thing and mantain law and order. Your tape, as bad as it is (not well schooled in videography it seems) does contain valubale information, when you put it together with all the other smaller cards (pictures, video, staments) you can create a full card house- and that should always be up to a grand jury to sift through.
In short- dude isnt a journalist! Although he can be heard egg-ing on and encouraging crowds to act in a illegal fashion which can make for intersting and controversial tv (think CNN, so maybe he can make it a career after all. He must not be familiar with the grafiiti effect in NY.
Dude, you’re kind of an idiot.
Seriously, you wanted a judge to secretly view evidence and secretly rule on that evidence? What country exactly are you interesting in having here?
You think you’re making some grand point that you were willing to show the tape to a judge and let him decide if it was worth anything, but you’re actually showing the strength in our country’s judicial system; that you were not allowed to let the justice secretly view the video tape and make a decision in secret like he was some little dictator is actually a good thing.
“Jackrabbit”, methinks you type when you should read only. “Kids have the right to be kids”, so they can defy the law and carry out violent acts without consequence? You can have whatever ideas you want, but when you punctuate them with violence you become worthy of scorn.
Regarding hypocrisy: a “peace” movement that relies on violence is hypocritical, I don’t think it takes a rocket scientist to figure that out. These comments “And is there a single thing in your life you would really be willing to go to jail for 7+ months for?” & “Do you even know what you believe in, you arrogant pricks?” are dumb.
I have to admit, given your tone and then calling people arrogant *is* amusing. It’s what one might call “irony”. Finally, I’ll throw all the stones I want. I can make my point using more articulate methods than violence. Although some of the tenents of “true” anarchy may have merit, in general it’s a *violent* and ignorant “movement” and it’s followers will be judged by their actions…
good job on takin a stand but since the SUPREME leader,the DECIDER started running the country it started goin to sh*t…democracy bwaaaahahahaahah…allll heil the SUPREME ONE…lmao
Agree or disagree with the marchers, but don’t forget the fundamental right to protest. In this country we have that right for now, and it should not be taken lightly simply because you disagree the position of those involved. If you can’t remember or experience any of the idealism that usually accompanies being a young adult you have lost much more than you know. Being perfect, and always right, only settles in on those with small or closed minds. More power to the idealists, and dreamers. At least they do something besides sit and watch Fox news.
jackrabbit said:
I’m amazed at the reactions people have to this video.
Kids have a right to be kids. They have the right to make mistakes and to speak out regardless of what you think of their ideas.
What you, El Conejo, do not understand is that these same “kids” do not have the right to destroy property and injure policemen — or anyone else for that matter. All the prove by those actions is what kind of thugs they are and what kind of world we would have under their “anarchy”.
jackrabbit said:
I’m amazed at the reactions people have to this video.
Kids have a right to be kids. They have the right to make mistakes and to speak out regardless of what you think of their ideas.
What you, El Conejo, do not understand is that these same “kids” do not have the right to destroy property and injure policemen — or anyone else for that matter. All they prove by those actions is what kind of thugs they are and what kind of world we would have under their “anarchy”.
Congrats on being released Josh!! When you’re down in so cal–beer’s on me!!
Jon,
Have you ever heard of that church that holds signs that say “god kills soldiers” and stuff like that? They are the most disgusting group I’ve heard of in a long time, BUT if they came to my town protesting I would respect thier right to do so.
As long as they were doing it legally. The people in this video were not and I think very few people here are arguing that people should not have the right to protest. The point here is that they were breaking the law by destroying property and abusing police officers and no one has that right in this country. And Josh was wasting tax payers money for how ever many days he was in prison while he was hiding these scums identity.
This has to be the stupidest thing I’ve seen to go to jail for. The cops are fools for wanting so bad to see it, since the worst things that happen are throwing newspaper boxes into the street and almost no one is identifiable, and Josh is obviously a complete moron for the same reasons. What an all-around brain-loss.
BTW, for those who are claiming “freedom of the press”: go read the Constitution again. You can’t be forced to testify against yourself, which means you *can* be forced to testify against anyone else. Having a notebook and a video camera and calling yourself a “journalist” doesn’t give you some special status better than the rest of us.
I was wondering why there were so many meatheaded comments here, then I realize they were all coming from Drudge.
Anyhow, I’m glad you’re getting released, Josh. Going to jail for your principles is a time-honored and deeply American tradition.
Josh: Here is a posting from the “Drudgereport” todays date. Friend as my son Kurt said your’s would be the victory! Thank you for being so big as to take an important stand. Your youth and courage does my old heart good. Please do stay in touch. God bless you!
Dr. H. Fred Johnson
Jailed journalist freed
Josh Wolf freed after 226 days, a record, under deal with prosecutors
By Josh Richman, STAFF WRITER
Article Launched: 04/03/2007 12:30:52 PM PDT
Freelance videographer and blogger Josh Wolf, who spent a record-setting seven months in prison as a journalist refusing to comply with a subpoena, was freed today after cutting a deal with prosecutors.
Wolf, 24, of San Francisco, emerged this afternoon from a federal prison in Dublin soon after U.S. District Judge William Alsup vacated the contempt-of-court order against him.
Wolf, who works full-time as outreach director for Peralta Community College District’s cable television station in Oakland, has posted to his Web site — http://www.joshwolf.net — all of the previously unreleased video footage he shot of a G-8 Summit protest July 8, 2005, in San Francisco’s Mission District, at which a police officer was hurt and someone might have tried to set a San Francisco police car afire.
Swearing in a new court document that he neither took part in nor could identify those responsible for the car’s damage or the officer’s injury, Wolf extracted a promise from prosecutors that they won’t use the existing subpoena to compel his testimony before a grand jury.
The U.S. Attorney’s office issued a statement saying Wolf was released because he had “complied with the grand jury subpoena by producing the responsive materials in his possession to the government and by answering questions.”
Still, Wolf declared victory.
“It took 226 days, but it was worth every second to get what I wanted from day one, which is that I will not have to testify before the grand jury about the
events at the protest or the identities of participants,” he said in a statement e-mailed to reporters before his release Tuesday. “The demand for my testimony before the grand jury was the true assault on my code of ethics and, as I have stated previously, there will be, and has been no compromise to this resolute principle.”
Wolf said he posted the previously unreleased video online “so that the public will have the opportunity to see that there is nothing of value in this unpublished footage. As there is no sensitive material on the tape, there was no reason to remain in prison.”
Society of Professional Journalists President Christine Tatum, whose organization supports Wolf, voiced “mixed feelings” Tuesday. She’s glad he’s free, and she understands the strategy of making the material public rather than giving it only to prosecutors, something major media organizations have done in similar circumstances.
“But it’s unfortunate that Josh can’t keep his work product to himself, it’s unfortunate that prosecutors are able to go on a fishing expedition to get information that I think should be in the protection and possession of the journalist,” said Tatum, a Denver Post assistant business editor.
Journalists often take copious notes or shoot copious footage and show restraint in vetting what’s fit for publication or broadcast, she said. “When lawyers want to just say willy-nilly, `I want to see everything that’s in your notebook,’ you have to cough up the whole enchilada. … They’re not showing the same restraint and respect for the average person.”
National Press Club President Jerry Zremski, a Buffalo News reporter, agreed it’s “a partial victory” and “an imperfect compromise.” Putting the video on the Internet is “far better than putting it just in the hands of the prosecutors,” he said, because he’s informing the public, not serving as an arm of the justice system.
But Zremski said he’s “queasy” about the fact that Wolf was compelled to air the footage at all. “I feel very happy that Josh is out of prison, I think he obviously has suffered greatly for his willingness to take a stand here, but it is similar to a print reporter giving up all the notes he or she has for a story.”
Wolf also has been supported by the American Civil Liberties Union; Reporters Without Borders; the National Lawyers Guild; Media Alliance; The Newspaper Guild/Communication Workers of America; and the San Francisco Board of Supervisors.
Prosecutors say grand juries have broad power to probe whether a crime occurred: perhaps the attempted car arson — potentially a federal offense, they say, as San Francisco police get federal funding — or perhaps something else. There’s no federal “shield law” protecting journalists from federal grand juries’ demands.
Wolf and his supporters say the attempted car arson was a pretense, an end-run around California’s strong shield law so the FBI could gather evidence for a San Francisco police investigation while fishing for information about protesters and chilling independent news-gathering.
The case also has raised questions about who is and isn’t a journalist. In an age when almost anyone can write, record or film events and post it online, past delineation’s between professional and amateur reporters are blurred, particularly when it comes to questions of objectivity; Wolf clearly was among and supportive of the protesters on whom he reported.
[...] The Center for Media and Democracy has a statement written by Josh, and as part of the deal with prosecutors the video blogger has posted a copy of the video he took of the demonstration on his blog. He writes: “During the course of this saga I have repeatedly offered to allow a judge to be the arbiter over whether or not my video material has any evidentiary value. Today, you the public have the opportunity to be the judge and I am confident you will see, as I do, that there is nothing of value in this unpublished footage.” He adds: “I had wanted to reveal to you, the public, how ridiculous and without merit this matter is, but could not publish this tape until I had received assurances from the US Attorney that it would not be considered partial compliance and strengthen their claims that I might eventually be coerced.” [...]
For this video you spent 7 months in jail. You are a fucking idiot.
Whoa. The comments here are…stunning. Did anyone who commented here follow the case at all?
I don’t think anyone here “get it” except maybe holesinmyboots.
This is about journalism, the definition of “journalist”, shield laws, and the Federal Government using a work-around to get a tape for who knows what purpose.
it’s about the work-around, people.
Hippies suck.
Jackrabbit wrote “Kids have a right to be kids. They have the right to make mistakes and to speak out regardless of what you think of their ideas.”
Matt wrote “Unfortunately, we live in an age where a simple protest is seen as criminal.”
Jon wrote “Agree or disagree with the marchers, but don’t forget the fundamental right to protest.”
Sorry you guys slept through the past 8 months of hoo-hah and the entire video. This was NOT a “simple protest” where people were “speaking out”. This was a march down the middle of a city street by thugs with bandannas over their faces, spray painting on public and private property, throwing paint bombs, knocking newspaper vending machines into the street, breaking windows and setting police cars on fire. These are NOT protected by Free Speech and Freedom of Assembly. They’re first-degree assholism. And they didn’t do a damned thing to address the problems they were complaining about.
I’m on the Left. I’ve lived in SF for 22 years. I’ve protested and spoken out and participated in the political process. But what these assholes did is wrong, stupid and violent, and Josh was so stupid as to waste 8 months of his life defending wrong, stupid violence. That’s the sad fact.
happy birthday
Gee, if I hadn’t read the article and watched the video, I would swear that most of the right wingers who posted here were finally holding the administration accountable. Most of the posts could easily apply to BushCo. They are doing what these posters are protesting about. Go figure!
Holesinmyboots wrote “Josh is asserting his right to be a journalist. Why is he not a journalist and afforded the protections granted to journalists? Do you need to be apart of a major press corp to be a journalist? Why should the government grant privileges to employees of major papers that it won’t grant to it’s own citizens? He is a journalist, he was reporting news he has a right to protected under California’s shield law. A young journalist needs to start somewhere. A narrow definition of journalist/ journalism will ultimately perpetuate a trend towards a state run media. Media that relies on press releases does not serve the public need. Most major news outlets are in fact state run media outlets. Protecting Josh’s right to be journalist, thus granting him the protections afforded to journalists under California law is protecting free speech, the cornerstone of our Democracy.”
So then, anyone who wants to call themselves a journalist should be allowed to, and thus be protected by the same laws that protect professional journalists.
Anyone who wants to call themselves a doctor should be allowed to, and practice medicine on others.
Anyone who wants to call themselves a teacher should be allowed to, and apply for jobs in public schools.
Anyone who wants to call themselves an airline pilot should be able to, and fly jumbo jets full of passengers.
All of these professions guarantee protection against certain risks, such as malpractice insurance for doctors. Should an amateur doctor with no training qualify for malpractice insurance? Protections are meaningless unless they go with responsibilities and qualifications. Josh Wolf NEVER had the qualifications of a journalist; the courts were quite clear in that assessment. Are we heading towards some sort of fascist state because we don’t allow “citizen doctors”, “citizen teachers”, “citizen pilots”? Of course not. Bloggers, vloggers and “citizen journalists are all well and good in helping keep the balance of power. But they do not automatically qualify for the same legal protection guaranteed to real journalists, any more than faith healers are guaranteed the access to malpractice insurance.
Since when are “journalists”, or just some one with a camera, above the law? You must be more dedicated to trying to make a name for yourself than doing what is right. You got a subpoena to produce evidence. It is the job of the grand jury to determine if it has value in the matter under investigation. My only problem with you spending time in jail is that my tax dollars helped put you up.. Hope you enjoyed your stay.
Wow, you are right. There is nothing of any value at all in this video. Looks like some people need to get jobs and stop destroying other peoples things.
You are a stale cartoon!
Josh, you are truly a brave man and I am so glad you did the time to bring the hegemons out into the light. You made history standing up for what you believe in and that is an amazing thing. I don’t know anyone else who has the guts you do. Most people talk a lot or type a lot about their ideals on the internet anonymously but you stood up fearlessly in the face of the dominant overlords.
As a current senior in journalism school, a freelance photojournalist, and a blogger, I admire your taking a stand for what you believe in. Holesinmyboots and Missb are about the only two around here that either get it at all, or come across in any way as educated. The majority of the comments being thrown around here come across as extremely ignorant and uneducated. It scares me to think how there is now a grey line that is muddled and blurry as to who qualifies as a journalist. By keeping up with his case and not to mention the support that he has recieved from SPJ, along with his bio and credentials, Josh is by all definitions a journalist. The majority of working journalists, especially since the mass media convergence of the web, are freelance journalists. To be freelance or independent, does not mean that your profession is downgraded.
And please people, if you are going to knock journalists, at least be able to spell properly in your posts, use the correct words, and don’t swear every other word…. It only weakens your own credibility and makes you look dumb.
Welcome back Josh. It’s too bad you have to put up with jerks on your own site.
Hmm. I have a degree in Journalism and proudly stand up for civil rights at every opportunity. However, watching the video was just depressing…the fact that there are truly people out there who feel “anarchy” is the answer to our (admittedly very screwed-up) global political situation is mind-boggling.
But the best part is that you can “buy a T-shirt to support Josh” on the main page. Haha…anarchy? Which credit card should I pay with? Oh cool, you take PayPal too.
Anarchy means, as I understand it, government from below. A deemphasis of the power of the state and of corporations. Not lawlessness. Even if the people in the video aren’t its best proponents.
Here’s to you Josh. Internet bloggers are journalists. CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc. are lucky to be called that. There is no way that rights that are granted to those corporate apologists who even now won’t call Bush on his war crimes shouldn’t go to a man of principle like Josh.
Jackrabbit: Have you eliminated hypocrisy in your life? No, you haven’t. So quit throwing stones, fool.
Actually, it was the uneducated baffoons on the video throwing rocks, and acting–on average–quite the fool.
And redde, you said holesinmyboots gets it… no he/she doesn’t. Here’s what holesinmyboots said:
Josh is asserting his right to be a journalist. Why is he not a journalist and afforded the protections granted to journalists?
That exhibits a remarkable ignorance of law. Journalists are citizens just like you and I, and have no special exemption from any laws. If you witnessed a crime and refused to tell the authorities what you knew, you would go to jail for obstruction of justice. As we saw with Judith Miller, they can even be held for refusing to give up sources–let alone things they themselves know or possess.
So, in essense, Josh went to jail for asserting a right that any educated person knows does not exist, and he did so to be an asshole, and maybe get some of that unshaven hippy chick action afterward. There is no intellectual merit at all to his “heroic stand”, and, in fact, just being associated with the sort of idiocy on display in the video has seriously deflated any reputation for seriousness that he may have had.
He will now, forever, be known as the guy who asserted nonextistent rights to protect the “fuck yeah”-yelling, bandana wearing, illiterates.
Hey what do you expect? They’re Portland anarchists, the cockroach of mankind. Like the cockroach…they’re annoying, breed very fast, eat out of our trash cans, carry diseases, come out of their hiding places in the dark of night but scurry away when the lights go on. We need to treat them like the cockroachs they are. Spray them, gas them, and stomp them…soon they’ll go back into hiding or move on.
I don’t see what Josh was trying to protect…he gave in at the end anyways. If it was a punkass anarchists who’s head had been bashed in..Josh would of bent over backwards to give up the video. Hypocrite!
People sure like to gripe about things they barely understand. These “cockroaches” who are standing up for independent thought are of the exact same stripe as the anti-government people who started the USA.
Our founding fathers were anarchists against the UK. They had the exact same complaints then that anarchists have today.
Just because some of them do stupid things doesn’t make all anarchists criminals. People who assume so are just idiots. These kids are ten times smarter than you are. In twenty years, most anarchists go from being college students to being movers and shakers in the community, CEOs of large businesses, lawyers, and entrepreneurs.
In twenty years, you’ll still be in front of the TV watching Paris Hilton get old.
Go eat your cheetos and quit wasting bandwidth.
[...] On the negative side, Wolf did release the videotapes (which it turns out had zero incriminating evidence of any crimes whatsoever), had to answer two questions to prosecutors (in private, I think) and had to spend 226 days in jail to get any sort of compromise. [...]
FIRST OF ALL, TO ALL YOU BASHING JOSH WOLF, LET ME ASSURE YOU THAT HE HAS DONE MORE TO HELP ENSURE A FREE SOCIETY (IN THE SENSE OF FREEDOMS OF SPEECH, EXPRESSION AND JOURNALISM) THAN ANY OF YOU … COMBINED. THE MERE DIALOGUE, FRICTION, THIS INCIDENT CREATED HELPS KEEP THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND CONSTITUTION REAL AND VIGOROUS.
SO, NOT SURPRISINGLY, YOU ALL SIT IN THE COMFORT OF YOUR HOME (LIKELY MID-LEVEL INCOME AND EDUCATION (BY THE WAY, I’M A LAWYER WITH A FIRST TIER EDUCATION FOR COLLEGE AND LAW SCHOOL)) AND SPOUT OFF, WHILE THIS GUY HAS BEEN IN PRISON FOR OVER SIX MONTHS.
WHICH MAKES ME WONDER, WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE FOR THIS COUNTRY LATELY?
FOR WHATEVER IT WAS WORTH, THANK YOU, JOSH.
You wasted 226 days of your life….:cry:….I wasted 15 minutes of my life…….:cool:
That was weak… lamest protest I have ever scene.
I want back the 10 minutes it took to watch that.
So dude spent 2/3 of year in jail over that. You stand to your principles Josh but that aint anarchism. That was angry kids who left there squats, or cozy homes to act like retards… ‘we cant stand on the sidewalk’?
That wasnt anarchism… any type of cabal or movement is not anarchism. That was dumb kids who think they got it figured who got called out by some misfortuned dude in a wheel chair… ouch.
I suggest someone read Guy Debord or Emma Goldman and get a clue.
Seattle people seattle… that was a protest. Lucky the cops didnt beat all your asses. You should fear cops that dont fear you. In seattle they were scared… and from there a message was sent.
rant over
out
Edward wrote “FIRST OF ALL, TO ALL YOU BASHING JOSH WOLF, LET ME ASSURE YOU THAT HE HAS DONE MORE TO HELP ENSURE A FREE SOCIETY (IN THE SENSE OF FREEDOMS OF SPEECH, EXPRESSION AND JOURNALISM) THAN ANY OF YOU … COMBINED. THE MERE DIALOGUE, FRICTION, THIS INCIDENT CREATED HELPS KEEP THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND CONSTITUTION REAL AND VIGOROUS.
SO, NOT SURPRISINGLY, YOU ALL SIT IN THE COMFORT OF YOUR HOME (LIKELY MID-LEVEL INCOME AND EDUCATION (BY THE WAY, I’M A LAWYER WITH A FIRST TIER EDUCATION FOR COLLEGE AND LAW SCHOOL)) AND SPOUT OFF, WHILE THIS GUY HAS BEEN IN PRISON FOR OVER SIX MONTHS.”
What laughable twaddle. So a “lawyer with a first tier education for college and law school” (how’s that for twisted syntax) can’t find his caps-lock button, nests two sets of parentheses, and slags on people for having “mid-level income and education”, while touting his own.
You “assuring us” that Josh Wolf has done more than any of us to help ensure a free society is hilarious. How do you know what the rest of us have done? I was a hardcore political punk back in the earliest days of the movement, and I was certain that (1) I knew more than anyone else about the way the world worked and (2) my actions were singlehandedly counteracting the evils of the Reagan Administration. Ah, youth and stupidity. Good to see it’s still around.
Thanks for reminding us that lawyers are assholes, Edward, and demonstrating that “first tier colleges and law schools” can still turn out illiterates.
[...] En PeriodismoCiudadano.com publicamos recientemente un artículo detallando su odisea. También se puede visitar el blog del propio Josh Wolf (en inglés) para estar al tanto de las últimas novedades del caso y para ver el video en cuestión, tanto editado, como íntegro. La liberación de Wolf es una gran noticia, pero conviene no olvidar que este bloguero no llegó a ser formalmente imputado por ningún delito y que su estancia de 226 días en prisión es la más larga que haya cumplido un periodista por desobedecer un requerimiento judicial en los Estados Unidos. [...]
[...] Watch it for yourself. Post your reactions in the comments if you like. And if you agree that jailing Wolf for eight months in a Federal prison was an overreaction and overreaching abuse of power, consider making a donation to his defense fund. If you have difficulty loading from here, try the link on his blog. I suggest you stay away from the comments unless you enjoy mindless flaming — evidently Matt Drudge linked this from his site so there are lots of crazed Drudge Report flamers on there. [...]
finally this idiots 15 minutes are up, he can go back to marching in the streets with his fucking stupid haircut and glasses. from the looks of these posts not to many supporters here.
the little bitch sold his anarchist fuckwits out, boo hoo.
[...] Watch it for yourself. Post your reactions in the comments if you like. And if you agree that jailing Wolf for eight months in a Federal prison was an overreaction and overreaching abuse of power, consider making a donation to his defense fund. If you have difficulty loading from here, try the link on his blog. I suggest you stay away from the comments unless you enjoy mindless flaming — evidently Matt Drudge linked this from his site so there are lots of crazed Drudge Report flamers on there. [...]
Le vidéoblogueur américain Josh Wolf libéré…
En août 2006, un vidéoblogueur californien activiste, Josh Wolf avait été emprisonné pour avoir refusé de communiquer l’intégralité d’une vidéo tournée, le 8 juillet 2005, pendant un affrontement entre policiers et manifestants, vidéo dont…
Good to have you back, man. Hope you got a good night’s rest. See you soon.
cops are nazi scum. ‘roid raging bullies. one dumb cop’s fractured skull is hardly payback for the daily humiliation, intimidation, and terror they inflict on innocent people who pay their salaries. cops incite violence. instead of robbing these people of thier right to free speech, and freedom to assemble, they should be out fighting real crime, or at least doing something useful like scrubbing sidewalks, filling potholes, or cleaning urine from the gutters. “protect and serve”? ha! more like “harrass and degrade”! cops are the scourge of society, and deserve nothing but the worst………this guy’s video is his property, and they have no right to take it. fractured skull? boo hoo! cry me a river………why can’t the public sieze the tapes from the cops after they beat the crap out of people for no reason except for their own over inflated ego’s? and the driving into the crowd? charge them with attempted murder! and for all of you stupid know-nothings who don’t like the patriotic american anarchists who believe in freedom? get back in your b.m.w.’s and go back to your nice houses in the hills, turn on your tee-vee and watch “friends” or whatever mindless drivel you use to hide from things that really matter…..like freedom. how dare you even call yourselves americans. shame on you!
Josh,
Don’t agree with the way you go about things, and Anarchism is a question waiting for an answer, but something that appeared to miss the gaze of some of the more amusingly ignorant people on the blog was that you’d been imprisoned, without trial, for an extended amount of time, AFTER offering to let a judge view the material.
One of the main clauses of modern civilisation is a speedy trial by your peers in the case of criminal behaviour, but you were instead incarcerated at the pleasure of the courts. None of the mouthbreathers from Drudge seem to understand that there isn’t a lot that separates you from them.
Sure are lots of people here who think that “getting jobs” will cure people of their discontent.
Newspaper vending machines? You people are standing up for the rights of newspaper vending machines over the rights of human beings? There is something wrong with you all. Property IS theft.
Anonymister, you’ve protested for 22 years, huh? All legal and whatnot? What good has it done? YOU HAVE WASTED YOUR LIFE and you’re still wasting it posting here.
Hey, everyone, enjoy your jobs, OK? I am going to go sit in the sun.
ON JOURNALISM: I’ve read lots of posts that concluded: Josh is not a journalist. Perhaps these conclusions fail to take into account the fact that definitions of words evolve with the evolution of technology. With the internet we have a proliferation of information and with affordable, consumer digital cameras and inexpensive server space available, individuals now have the ability to report events of interest, both in words and images. It used to be that reporting was limited to commercial sources such as newspapers, magazines, radio and television. Understandably, this content is often influenced by financial concerns. I think it benefits all of us to give due respect to the idea that individuals who are free from the burdens of the bottom line may have perspectives or stories that more traditional media must ignore. Hence, even though Josh might not be a journalist under a stagnant definition of the word, his case asks our society, through the court system, to revisit how we now choose to define the word ‘journalist.’ If, as a society, we had never enlarged our definitions to reflect technological advancements, reporters on television and radio would not now be considered journalists. As pixels replace pages and programming, Josh’s legal challenge is not an unreasonable request.
Perhaps ultimately, the courts will decide, through a series of legal challenges such as Josh’s that a set of criteria exists for determining when an ordinary person, with a camera and a computer, becomes a journalist for the purpose of extending the protections of shield laws. It will be interesting to observe how the refining of the definition of ‘journalist’ unfolds.
ON THE PROTESTORS: I don’t think we should confuse our opinions about the mentality of the protestors, or the value of their cause, with the individual who merely endeavors to record the events and make them available so that we CAN form these opinions.
ON LEGAL MANUEVERING: I didn’t realize that there is no federal shield law and that it was possible to find some nexus, however remote, between the facts and the federal government which would enable state prosecutors to circumvent state law. In my observation, the legal ‘end run’ most frequently happens (1) when the facts, coupled with the law inhibit litigators from achieving their desired result, (2) when a previously unused, and often unintended, loophole is discovered in the law, (3) just before legislation is introduced to prevent similar behavior from occurring in the future. I wonder just how much true federal interest existed in this case, or if it was prosecuted under Federal law, merely to get around State law. Any thoughts?
ON COMMITMENT: Whether or not I agree with Josh’s stance, I do have a deep respect for his commitment to his value system. This type of behavior forces us as a society to constantly rethink our ideas and improve upon the way we interact.
I think one of the most detrimental forces in our governmental system is apathy. It might even be worse than ignorance. I’ll have to think on that one. It takes great courage, self-discipline and tenacity to express our beliefs in actions, rather than words. Since I’m sitting here on the computer, I don’t get credit for this one. Speaking of which,
ON PEOPLE IN PYJAMAS WHO SPEND INORDINATE AMOUNTS OF TIME WRITING LONG POSTS THAT NO ONE PROBABLY EVER READS, INSTEAD OF DOING THE DISHES, FOLDING THE LAUNDRY OR TAKING OUT THE TRASH: (1) Get a life! (2) Guilty as charged…
Smiles and wishes for a great day. Welcome back, Josh. Enjoy the sunshine.
Josh’s bio:
“My first experience in the field of journalism came in my senior year of high school working on the school newspaper. After graduating high school, I briefly wrote for UC Santa Barbara’s Daily Nexus before taking an Internship at the Santa Barbara Independent where I worked for about six months writing blurbs for the news department.
After moving to San Francisco, I’ve been actively contributing articles and video reports for my blog as well as Indymedia. I have also written for the Haight Ashbury Beat.
I’m currently employed as the Outreach Director for peralta.TV, a department of the Peralta Community College District”
Sounds like a journalist to me! To his detractors:What is a journalist? Someone who works for the Chronicle, or network news? And no one else? If he was a right-winger withholding footage of a college republicans protest, he’d be a cause celebre, on tv every night.
Josh – I’m glad to see you are finally out. A comment on the participants in the video – I cannot believe that the anarchists did nothing to free their friend who was being choked by the police officer. The cop was obviously outnumbered, and no backup was in site. They should have freed their comrade. Guess it is more fun to throw garbage in the streets than to actually fight back…. oh well.
Just wanted to add one comment to what Lee in SD said.
I fully believe and see Josh as a journalist. Video blogging, citizen journalism, and writing for a free press makes you a journalist. You don’t have to have credentials from CNN hanging around your neck to be a legitimate journalist.
Josh CEASED to be a journalist in this case the moment he sold footage to KRON.
Once you sell your footage, ostensibly for profit, you become a SOURCE, not a journalist.
Look at this fool:
#
-William Post said,
on April 3rd, 2007 at 11:09 am
If, as you say, it contains nothing of value then your only possible reason for not turning it over is a desire to be a pain in the ass.
Hope you like jail!
Good on ya, mate — most people attempt to hide their abject idiocy. You’re so comfortable with it as to be Rovian in your shamelessness. (Not a compliment, as likely you mistake it.)
It’s just amazing how people lump all journalists together as if they’re White House Press Corps toadies (just like I just lumped all WHPCT together).
Most journalism is street-level hard work of the useful but often mundane type. Covering the school board meeting for the 200th time? Well, there’s news to be had, but a lot of the work and time isn’t even used. If you’re writing a school board meeting story every time you go you’ve either got a school board with a lot of issues or you’re mailing it in.
Similarly, I applaud Mr. Wolf – and as a journalist myself would love to interview him – for standing up for a principle. Apparently that’s as concept that a lot of Americans no longer understand. And it’s not just a small, out there principle, It’s the freedom of the press (which increasingly includes bloggers AKA a lot of you.), which is taken for granted but can be easily subverted by a cowed and cowardly public that doesn’t fight for it like every other right.
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Lee in SD wrote ‘with the individual who merely endeavors to record the events’
problem I have with the statement is one of the most overlooked facts of the case, Josh admittedly states he was a part of that group that marched on a number of occasions, it just so happened this day he had a camera and perhaps wasn’t wearing a mask.
so you want your news from this guy?
its conflict of interest. as a former post mentioned once he SOLD the footage to KRON he became a SOURCE not a JOURNALIST. this says alot about his regard for his fellow anarchists/marchers.
otherwise nice post.
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Why would selling his footage to KRON make him a source, and not a journalist. Logic would suggest the opposite. Do you think that freelance journalists are independently wealthy volunteers who just spend all their time doing reports for free?
viva la anarchy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
punk kids (i know, i was one when i was young) on tape commiting crimes for something they couldnt define. period. end of sentence. and YOU thought that was worth your time in the slammer?? i do honestly hope that you have learned something from all of this. just remember, JESUS SAVES!!!
may GOD bless our AMERICA!!!!!!
What Anarchists invariably forget is that SOMEONE will make laws regardless of whether there is “government” or not. The question is whether the people want laws made by the warlord with the most troops and the most guns, or made by their chosen representatives, who can vote them out if they don’t like the result. Put simply, anarchists are third graders who never outgrew their temper tantrums.
pay-pal? send my mom a check? whaaaat i thought you were an anarchist! i thought you were standin up for your rights. when i look at the “donation” page, i feel like im lookin at a payment form on any other for profit website.
i need a video-cam, a bunch of dumb kids(in masks) and a place for them to trash. then maybe ill get some pay-pal and checks for MY mom.
how much money on your legal defense then you just hand the stuff over i wonder?????????????????????????? just how much?? can u blog that?? or WILL you blog that??? i think not!!!!
you are merely a sheep in WOLF’S clothing
by the way, why weren’t you wearing your mask that day?? i can hear you inciting your buddies. please dont try that stuff in my neighborhood. the dope dealers and the thugs would have taken care of your “riot” for the cops. thats why i stay inside, abidin the law as best i can, without tryin to “bust a pigs” skull.
and that brings up another point, who would rescue these mask-wearing punks if they were gettin shot at or if they were held hostage in a standoff or if their house was on fire or they were in a car accident. the government thats who! who will send them or their children to school or fix their roads? who will incarcerate the criminals who steal from them, rape them, murder them?? who will pay their grandparents medical bills or provide their infants with innoculaitons if they cant afford it?? the MICKEY-FICKEY GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!
Send my mom a check
she might even take Pay-Pal
well said dickie cox. says alot about a guy, who at 24, relies on his mother to take care of his finances, shes probably wiping his ass right now. this guy is a joke.
send my mom a check, whaaaaaaa…..
You’re a poser dude. Many laws were broken, you’re a tool and furthermore….NOT a journalist….
I hope you got ass-packed in jail…the people on this video are low-life scum bags with no jobs, no money, and no fucking hope.
hey that’s me in the video!
josh, you rock. thanks for holding this shit down while cointelpro tries to break us apart
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does the previous poster know that all the lackeys in wolfs anarchist group already play world of warcraft all day every day in their parents basement? he’s probably with them right now uncovering the next government conspiracy, what a journalist!
I am glad Josh is out of jail, now I have someone to film my wedding.
Wolf is free excellent. we need more people like Josh out there showing how pathetic the left is, we just couldn’t pay for such great publicity. keep on going Josh, it would be great if you grew that goaty a little longer before you went to washington. and right before you chain yourself to the capital make sure you rip your baggy jeans. rock on dude, you are our star recruiter.
Thanks for the laugh of these idiots and their protest. The only thing of prosecutorial value is the lack of understanding their power, duty, and rights as police officers. The “arrest” of the punk who went into the intersection clearly was the catalyst for the retalitory setting ablaze of the vehicle. Had that officer handled the situation more professionally things might not gotten out of hand.
Add to that the “backup” appraoching with tasers armed and pointed into the crowd in a hostile manner, you have a recipe for disaster.
Beyond that when asked to move, the answer from the unducated copper to the question “what I don’t have a right to stand here? isn’t “NO!”. Because that is inflamatory, and incorrect. Yes he does have a right to stand there, however, given the situation and the crime scene, it is necessary to preserve the scene and create a perimeter to protect the public and the crime scene.
Send the former jock back to the academt and back to school. Remember boys and girls in blue, you have a tough job, its called Customer Service. The sooner you treat it like that the sooner you will find success. Take that from 15 years of experience.
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. This is about as exciting as watching my grandma take a shit.
He who would give up a little freedom in exchange for a little security deserves neither. — I think that was Ben Franklin.
Remember that the next time the promoters of the Patriot act (or that 1970’s Supreme Court decision) ask you to give up information so the rest of us can feel a little safer.
Is there anything that I would give up my freedom or safety for in order to protect that something from govt intrusion? Answer: I already took that risk when I walked away from posh, low income housing because they wanted me to turn over the names of my customers, so they could better keep track of my low income. Now I have a bit more risk of homelessness to pay higher rent somewhere else, have less personal privacy, and have no central air conditioning. Not a big sacrifice, but it is noticeable.
The protesters need to do what the desegregationists did in the sixties and have classes to teach people how to protest peacefully. They would make their point that the government is not needed to keep the peace much better if they could act more responsibly. Refusing to leave the street was fine, destroying property and making threats was not.
This whole street march is just stupid.
Anarchy? This video shows how stupid the followers are. Most don’t know where it came from or have any idea about how it would work? How would you transform our society to one of anarchy?
Face it. The advocates for it are those who just want something to complain about. I’d like to let you all have a place to live in a little anarchist structure, so I could come in and take it over, enslave you and have you do my bidding.
You went to jail rather than show that video? What an idiot!!!
I’ll tell you though, I’d loved to have been a cop, because I would have bashed in some brains of those punks! Right when it got dark. I would have found a couple of loud mouths and smacked ‘em right in the head with my trucheon! That would be fun. Freaks!:razz::lol::eek::mrgreen:
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I watched about half this thing, then switched to “Dancing With the Stars”.
What a JOKE! And I’m a long-time lefty!
I like the pussy at the end tell the cop he has a right to stand on the corner. Who does he think will protect his “rights” when his Anarchy takes over.
The only reason we have rights is because of a Government set up by the people, for the people, and of the people. Not perfect, but definately better than anything else.
It’s much more difficult to build something than to tear it down.
The more I think of it, the more I realize Josh is really an Ass Clown.
He’s no more a free journalist than Dan Rather. When did it become OK for “journalist’s” to have agendas, and use their position as “journalist’s to spew their own propaganda.
No wonder the networks and newspapers are losing money; no one can trust them.
Never break the law. If you want our rulers to heed your pleas, fall on your knees first and worship them like gods. Lick their boots, and grovel like a whipped cur. Never, never, never stoop to the level of violence. Don’t throw tea into the harbor. Don’t drive the money changers from the temple with a whip. And if a bunch of redcoats come to grab your guns, don’t shoot back. Hand them over promptly, while singing “God Save the King” (or “My Country Tis of Thee” or “Heil Dir in Seigerkranz” or whatever they call it where you live).
If you don’t know the lyrics, look here:
http://www.contemplator.com/folk2/godsave.html
(snip)
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
(snip)
These “Anarchists” and the one who took the video are asking for protection from a government they wish to see disappear? They would have no such protection under another system of government. You want rights entitled to Americans. Americans live in a democracy, we pay taxes, we go to jail when we break the law. Under an anarchism, or egoism, or anarcho-syndachlism, you would have to pay for protection, protection that is only given to those who pay, who can afford to pay. Social programs and structure are right out the window. there are so many holes in this it is stupid that this dude would go to jail for something this silly. This matter is not worthy of our attention and it’s author is not worthy as yet of our respect. Mr. Wolf, your fifteen minutes of fame are up. Thank you for wasting our time.
People that come in this country Illegaly should die! If you come here, do it the legal way you dumb bitch!
Now that was strange. In the 60s we didn’t hide our face like some middle eastern terrorists when we protested. We actually were proud of who we were and what we stood for … oh and we actually stood for something.
All I saw were a bunch of little kids pretending to care but as clueless as Paris Hilton in a courtroom. All I saw were a bunch of little kids scattered about screaming about “their street.” If it was “their street” why did they fuck it up, I like my things to look nice. All I saw was a aimless bunch of retards with zero agenda and a huge me me me attitude.
And sadly all I saw was no hope that your generation is going tomake a difference.
You did a good job, man.
I don’t see how you could be arrested, I mean, they got no evidence that you was in any way destructive or part of their group..
But the American system is forever screwed.
Good luck in the future.
-N.
I don’t see what you did wrong! These protesters are the ones destroying private property, and for what? I am the biggest supporter of keeping Illegal aliens out of the country, but I also will stand up and say that if they come across the right way, then more power to them. I am in Dallas, Tx. We have a hospital here that has been taking in people W/O insurance
for a long time and because of the Illegal aliens, we who live here are being turned away by the same hospital for not having insurance. You should Not have Gone To Jail, for that video.
you are one stupid fuckface. im in favor of taking all the dumb ass law breaking protestors and burning them. they should consider getting jobs, or maybe attending school to help unfuck their minds.
As you can see they started out as a Peaceful Protest, and no police action was required. As they started to march down the street, thier intentions were clear in Destroying property.
If they would have still been peaceful and just marched down the street, It would not have ended up the way it did.
Damn josh,Why didnt you you just make a sizeable loan & make a donation to the RNC,not only would you not go to jail but may have secured a job in the white house
who do i have to talk to to get my 15min. back
Looking to all the remarks and opinions, it seems, nobody has given a serious thought to the issue. At first sight, one may assume Wolf’s actions as a stupidity, but if one really think about the issue, one may conclude Mr.Wolf was just right in his actions. A journalist is supposed to bring out the wrong doing, be it political, or other wise, to the public attention. I congratulate Wolf for his courage in refusing to cooperate with the prosecutors, may be because he got some soft corner towards the protestors and he believed their actions are for the puiblic good. He is the owner of the video that he shoot, and he would have given enough time to edit the same. I think the prosecutors were too hurry to act.
I love how the people who speak of freedom of speech and demonstration, condem the same government and brave men and women who gave that right to them by dying, not by rioting and destroying the property of their own fellow citizens. These jackasses care more about drug smuggling illegal alliens then they do about tax paying, law abiding AMERICANS. Josh you ass stand up like a man and help protect this great country from psycho anarchist, you truely are a disgrace to America.
“Jacques said,
on April 3rd, 2007 at 1:07 pm
Gotta love ignorant, violent, spoiled brats crying for the poor oppressed criminals and terrorists. Want to see a police state? Go to Syria or Iran, were you’d be hung or beheaded for protesting your government. Wanna see anarchy? Go to Darfur and be slaughtered by Arab-Muslim militias. “Pathetic” doesn’t quite say it. Go finish your sociology and journalism degrees so you can start repaying your government-backed student loans, morons. ”
I really couldn’t have said it better myself.
Violence is not the answer and breakig the law is not the answer. Destroying private and public property is not the answer. In the footage many small laws were broken. I think that the “protest” was a little childish in the way it was organized and no one takes ignorance seriously. The protest was for a good reason I believe but that is not the way to do it. There are many other ways that impact the gov. and cause mass followings. If there were 1 million people marching and had nothing to hode from and did not break a law it woulr have made a larger impact and had mass media coverage. The next time have more people and know what you are talking about when you speak about what you are protesting or reping.
Here is an original quote: “To protest is to be heard – to be heard you must form a herd.” Area37
Like the quote… and the typos
joking…
I saw this on the Yahoo front page so I went to this site to check it out…you’ve got to be kidding me. What a waste of seven months of your life, all for your 15 minutes of fame. Even Andy Warhol would be dissappointed! You need a real job, a real life and real responsibility, then maybe you’ll make a difference in this world!
Your a fucking idiot, your video proves how dumb your goup is.
Keep up the great work.
Why not make the video downloadable so more people can see it?
It’s really easy to poke fun at these kids, lament their politics etc. What most of you don’t seem to realize is that at least they are making an effort to change the fucked up status quo. That in and of itself is a quality far in excess of your own bleacher hugging asses. Instead of calling them names based on your own myopic view get off your sideline ass and make a stand yourself. Shit, you might even have fun too..fucking whiners! Right on Josh, you went out on a limb for your principles, a concept alien to most these sad days. Keep shaking it up so that the truth trickles out.
whoops i see that if you right-click instead of just click you can download the vid. Thanks!
one more thing tho, someone here said: “To be an anarchist, the first thing you need to do, is follow the law.
An outlaw is one who obeys the law, and then uses that fact to do whatever they please.”
Which is just absolute idocy, sorry. anachary is complete chaos which is impossible.
Even if everty governemnt broke down everywhere, instantly there would be someone else in charge and they would instantly make rules.
Imagine a group of 50 people in a city hearing the govet saying “we quit there is now officially no govt.” Well one of them would immeditley starty forcing their will on others, for good or bad. Within a day or two there would be a gang or two. Within a month there would be a new form of govt.
Josh, what kind of journalist sits so far back from the action? You can’t hold a camera steady, I clearly saw a man in a white and tan sweathshirt jump in your shot many times with a camera. Although he was 60′ closer to the action. That’s what a real journalsit does. I bet you were pissing yourself the entire time. You’re no journalist, it appears you’ve gotten yourself stuck in some sort of pubecent backlash along with those other ‘anarchists’. Thanks for showing everyone how great no government would be. duh.
In response to Stephen Henel…there’s a difference between “shaking it up” and nearly causing a riot. If done constructively, even those with “Bleacher Hugging Asses” make a difference in this world. Whether they agree or disagree with the status quo. Lose the “wanna be” 60’s and 70’s routine or we’ll just swap…we can kill ourselves at home here instead of overseas.
I think that it is both highly amusing and deeply unsettling to read the comments this video has engendered. There are always these assholes who feel attacked when anyone with any kind of idea that is different from the one they were fed by the right-wing spin factory. The most obvious of these are the ones who site our law enforcement and military for being responsible for our “beloved freedoms”. Wake the fuck up. Even our brainwashed, killing-machine marines think what our govt is doing is fucked. When was the last time you saw a cop with a crew-cut and felt a warm fuzzy feeling or even a sense of pride. I admit that there are still some good cops here and there but there are so many more crazed power-sick and addicted men who are drawn to the position for all the wrong reasons. You have to be either really fucked up desperate or sadly misinformed to join the military these days especially when those poor bastards in Iraq are themselves saying “what the…” I recently watched a few of the videos made by soldiers in Iraq and they are all of the same mind. To paraphrase: They don’t mind risking their life for their country but this, this is an experiment attached to a speculation. Yes they are saying this while others of you are condeming immigrants for your woes. Stop looking for excuses. If an immigrant from Mexico can support himself doing a job you don’t want then why can’t you. Its funny how people who support the insanity in Iraq also are anti-immigrant. When will you figure out that someone else has scripted your politics because they do not serve you. The people above who have derided these kids are unable themselves to go out and express themselves. They are stuck in their stale unflinching and apathetic mentalities whereby there greatest contribution is to someone elses agenda because they are merely mouthpieces for the haves.
Right on Stephen. Many compare our “freedoms” to the situation in countries such as Syria or Iran. They say ‘you are lucky that you live in this country’. They don’t compare us to other first world systems and they obviously aren’t African-American or Latino. One of the easiest mistakes people make is not to take into account their own bias. Yeah anarchism as an institution doesn’t hold much appeal to most but the idea behind it, personal freedom, should. Just like communism, ideas like these are not without merit but they are impractical to say the least. Nonetheless they spark the minds of our youth. In their purity these ideas can light the fire under our collective, apathetic ass. Unfortunately it’s a big old tired ass and won’t be moving anytime soon.
The idea of peaceful change, while appealing is also unrealistic. So these kids beat up a few newspaper dispensors. I am sure that it was much more vital experience than the tale the video told. Lets let them have it. By comparing everything to bygone eras we create yardsticks that judge and compare rather than measure.
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wolf you are coward. you hide behind a shield law so you can get publicity. how does that apply when you say you are an anarchist and admit to being part of that group that destroyed the property. you are a fraud. you are an embarrassment to your parents. the feds should have ignored you. you haven’t created a dialogue about freedom of journalism, just read your posts you have created a dialogue about stupid, young, rich lefties pretending to be revolutionaries. you are a sad and pathetic boy. grow up.
Steve…that was the biggest bunch of poetic bullshit I ever read in my life…what book did you get that from. I think maybe you should go live in another country and see how far the freedom of your ideas gets you. Oh yeah, I forgot, when you’re held against your will in that other country I suppose you’ll want the US Military to come save you…don’t count on it.
I love how supposed “anarchists” who want a society without government and a society free of laws are always the smallest and skinniest of the bunch. The kind, who is in prison, would always end up somebody’s bitch.
Let’s define anarchy shall we?
Wikipedia has it as:
Anarchy, in its broadest sense, refers to the situation in which a human society exists without Government. Anarchy can refer to:
1. the breakdown of order following the collapse of state power (anomie);
2. traditional societies which have never experienced the state form; or
3. the condition created by anarchist communities and projects.
That’s right, Law of the Jungle b****es! You’d all get your a**es handed to you on a platter in that society.
Like that guy getting the beat down from the cop (”Hey man, hey pig that’s illegal!”)
I’m not saying we need total authoritarian rule, but there has to be rules, order and someone to administer both. The fact that we live in a democracy allows us to choose that administrative body.
Get out and vote!
Anarchy my A**!
is Jellob retarded? Anarchists must follow the law? You obviously know absolutely nothing about anarchy and the anti-capitalist movement. Anarchy is about the abolition of government and organized democracy. Go to crimethinc.com and learn something.
All I can say is that these protester will be pouring my coffee in near future.
No they won’t Mike. They’ll be living in their parents’ basements, and you’ll be paying their unemployment with your tax dollars.
Mr. Wolf was claiming he is a journalist, and that he was protected under freedom of the press. In reality a web blog doesn’t make you Journalist and now he is begging for money to pay his legal bills. This could of all been avoided by giving the tape to the Feds.
Josh,
Stop asking people to pay for your bills. You are a nobody with about 1 minute left of your 15 minutes fame
USA is #1
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Imperial power structures want us to be happy with the “choices” and “freedoms” we have. As such, we can be delighted to choose our favorite soda, burger, dip-shit TV show or the like. Those aren’t freedoms, but narrowly defined “choices” set-up by a power structure not seen since the 3rd Reich. How about being able to choose things such as good paying manufacturing jobs, health care, affordable housing, or ….well, voting machines that can’t be rigged. Just a few of the fruits that could be had if there were those with the courage to say NO. Thank you Josh.
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just wana say keep on doing what your doing , i see notheing wrong it freely shooting video on a public street , i do it also on the streets of new york and alot of time i run into to hot head cops who dont want the small freelancer shooting video at crime sceens , its freedom of the press , i have also bin arested for shooting video and it will not stop me from doing something i enjoy doing and geeting it out theyr for all to see , my hats off to you , drop me a line if your ever in new york city
Hello Josh
Congrats for getting out of jail.
I agree with your righteous fight for your rights as a journalist. I’m glad you withheld the important democratic principle of freedom of the state.
Having watched the movie, however, it convinced me that:
1. These guys aren’t anarchists but rather a bunch of confused teens. If a title is necessary, it’s probably vandals, with disrespect for other people or their property. I wonder what any of these kids would do if someone would break their iPod or otherwise treat them like they treat other people’s equipment.
2. The SFPD are a bunch of extremely tolerant cops and a model for tolerance. I was pleasantly surprised, in light of some stories I heard about them on the SF chronical.
All I can say is that I’m glad you’re out and I hope they manage to haul as many people’s ass into court as possible for, well, being stupid enough to assume that performing a felony in a large body of marching people gives them some sort of immunity from the law.
– Arik
Arik, Josh actually admits to being part of that group for the record.
I thank people like Josh who stand up to bullying tactics of judges, prosecutors and government agencies in general. Josh, you are a journalist in the strictest definition of the term, and I admire the courage you showed in standing by your convictions.
In his capacity as a journalist, he should be allowed to protect his sources. If we say it’s a democracy we must uphold its principles. In his capacity as an anarchist-wannabe / confused kid, he should be treated like the rest. Luckily for him I think he was too busy filming to do anything illegal, but if he did, he’s no different than you and me.
Action, not affiliation.
– Arik
my bad!!! i thought this guy was part of the protest, but he wasn’t i guess. fuck him anyway, he could’ve turned over the tape then pleaded the fifth
these uneducated, speding daddy’s money don’t even know the meaning of anarchy. they say we live in a police state, how idiotic. if they lived in a police state and had an unauthorized march, protesting the government, they all will be dead. may be they should live in real police states like Syria, Iran, etc.
If you don’t like it here, move!
looks like the only things of value were some people vandalizing newspaper boxes and cops being unprofessional.
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Congratulations, Josh! Good that there are people that stick to some important principles (like: always question authority). All these redneck rants here in the respones are from desperate lonely airheads who do the opposite (always follow orders, try to make any buck possible on the costs of others and spend it again as fast as possible because they hope to buy happiness. It takes some time to grow up).
Congrats but really?? Was that really worth the time in Jail?? Your not a Judith Miller here nor was what you were doing really worthwhile and beneficial to society…This also goes on behalf of the Prosecutors and Government. This was one big show and a giant waste of time and taxpayer money! But in light of the criticism, I am happy to hear you are free…
I watched both the edited and unedited versions of the “Josh Wolf Video.” I think it was an excellent piece of work. It really shows how ridiculous the protesters were July 8, 2005. The biggest disappointment I had from watching the video is that I never learned what the point of “the protest” was in the first place. All I could gather was that these young people are gathering in the streets with “Anarchist” on their signs with the purpose of screaming out with deceitfully sounding tone, “Who’s streets? Our streets!” and “Down with the police state!” That just makes me feel like there trying to take over the city. How would they run it in any case? The groups as a whole appeared disorganized and unfocused on their cause.
The vandalism and destruction of property shown in the video was most certainly not impressive. The newspaper boxes are not government property. They are private property owned by people trying to earn a living by selling newspapers from the vending machines. By destroying them, the protesters are effectively sabotaging an innocent owner of the machines. The newspaper vender is analogous to a hotdog vender. How does destroying the newspaper stands help the cause of the protesters? A more effective approach would have been to paste some sign on the machine informing about the cause and directing to a website with a catchy URL; like “Bong Hits 4 Jesus” or something. Also, fire in the streets is never a good thing. It can start a chain reaction and ignite the whole city into flames… Good one.
The protest was clearly not authorized. The video definitely never showed any legal document authorizing the protest, nor document showing an attempt to get any such authorization; truly “anarchist” style. This is why the police demanded the protesters get on the sidewalk. Next time, get authorization, or get on the sidewalk. From a personal viewpoint, I don’t need you blocking up the streets and getting in my way. I’m busy building a career, having a life, and general working hard to try and enjoy life. As far as I can tell by looking at the group, you’re all a bunch of bank robbers trying to evade the police. The group looks dark, sinister, and only focused on creating a pandemonium sensation for the purpose of personal attention. What’s with the silly bandana masks? Not everyone is wearing one. Why? My interpretation is that those wearing masks are plotting to either break the law (ie. Property damage, public safety), or else they’re just trying to look tough for when they intentionally provoke the police officers emotionally. In laymen’s terms, being general dickheads.
On antagonizing the police. The officers, however much meat may make-up their heads, have a breaking point like everyone. After being senselessly bombasted with assigning remarks made by sinister looking chaotic teens, anyone’s blood will boil. At that stage, it’s basically harassment and the antagonists deserve a pop in the nose anyway! I wouldn’t have patience for someone on the street up I my face calling me names harassing me, and neither would you. So, why should the cops? The contempt should be voiced in public forum. The cops are basically instruments of the law. In the strictest form, they are law-enforcing robots – no room for innovation.
Deeply, I have an inkling that the protesters meant well for society; at least I would hope so. However, these contemporary tactics of protest as shown in the Josh Wolf video, the Washington WTO protest, and others are not effective. I implore the readers involved with such protests to change tactics. Move away from senseless vandalism and get more involved with ways of getting the message across to the public. Understand things get done for real by changing laws. That’s how the system works. Labeling yourself as an “anarchist” might bring you hopes for making friends and getting laid, but it doesn’t bode well for swaying opinion and persuading the mass public to agree with your views. If it is the case that you adopt indifference to the views of the rest of the our country, then you’re basically self centered and arrogant; termed “Scaa.” Meaning “Self-centered Arrogant Anarchist.” That label most certainly does not encourage me to agree with you on any terms.
Meanwhile, children are starving in Ethiopia.
you the man josh, alot more people would have givin up for alot less.down with the man! you are an american hero and you represent what america is all about.fuck the pigs and thier aggressive arrest tactics!! viva la revolution!!
i’m sorry i didnt read them all before i posted. are most people missing the point or what? many people in inner-city areas have a policy of not being a witness to crime….why dont we lock them all up? the point is that this MAN served much time in jail for nothing…i guess they will care when it happens to them and not a minute before.
Point is…WHAT ???
Hey, I don’t like anarchists but if I braged about having a video of them being unjustly beaten, or their property (bicycle or Mommy’s Mercedes) being damaged, I’d turn it over to officals…if asked. This BOIE served much time in jail for nothing..nothing…his choice! Stupid kid!
Great video. Showing a bunch of people slowing down traffic and then destroying things that do not belong to them is wonderful. Josh has to be the most brillant person, giving these people a voice they so desperately need. They really need to show others that defacing other peoples property is true anarchy! Oh yeah, screw the pigs that protect us, those jerks! This place would be much better off if there wasn’t a solid government in place. We could be so much better if we lived like those in, oh, someplace like Iraq.
So everybody who reads this, go spray paint your neighbors house, maybe brake something (but for gods sake, not your own things, like an expensive camera) and you will be a revolutionary!
I’m sorry but until this minute I was not aware of Josh and his adventures. We’re a little busy here in the heartland with raising kids, working jobs, volunteering for community projects, and just being productive. I’m glad those anarchists have some place to gather to speak their minds. It’s important. However, if San Franscisco is a little confining by all means come out to Wisconsin. We’ll make sure you enjoy yourselves. Might put you to work baling some hay, but the bed and breakfast will more than make up for those sore muscles. Ok then. Time to check on Mr. Sloopy our resident pig. Out here we call our officers “sir”.
Freedom of the press is one of the main underoinnings of a free society. However a irresponsible press is its own, and freedoms, worst enemey. Not to mention this idiot is not a journalist. He is not reporting news, he is making a politicial argument. The vidieo clearly has major investagatory and evidentuary value. I lost count of the crimes I saw committed in it. Many of the perpetrators faces and other identifing things are shown. My ogiginial response to the fact that he was let out of jail was shock that the prosecutors allowed it. Then I realised that they got what they needed, the moron released the vidieo and the criminials are exposed. finding some of them will be a little harder since they now know they are sought, but the result is still the same and This jerk can still, and hopefully will be prosecuted for his felonious actions. Mr. prosecutor, do your job. Lock them all up.
Well…Well…well! This was a very interesting video. First off…Yes I agree..Everyone has a right to protest and/or have there word be heard, but lets be real…as in all things there are ways to go about that. Second…Clearly…CLEARLY!!! If there was anything worth something in this video that needed to be seen that could show some sort of wrong doing by the police or any other law authority…Then yes…hold out to protect the innocent. But lets face the facts as seen on this video…The so called ” Protestors ” were the only people that were trying to be ” Protected ” on this video. Pulling newspaper machines in the streets, trying to disrupt traffic, and just outright causing a public disturbance shows who were at fault here. And last…Hey Josh…I hope this shows you how WRONG you were!!! You should have given up the tape…Your no journalist!!! A True Journalist would have had evidence on that video that would have showed a controversial scene. Like a cover-up. Instead you have a bunch on DUMB-ASSES that had an Unorganized ” Lets play follow the DUMB ASS ” march down a public street. You knew there was nothing on the tape…you should have just gave it up…No harm…no foul!!! Instead you decided to try and STRECH your luck with the law. I think you got what you deserve…and I hope your luck wasn’t the only thing that got stretched in prison…DUMB ASS!!!!!
You cunts are such pansies without a cause.
http://www.myspace.com/protest
I don’t see bloggers as journalists because who are you representing? Bloggers represent themselves. How can any blogger be protected by the shield laws meant to protect private sources for journalists of Press Syndicates?
And as for the person who kept insulting the cops, why do they deserve to be called names? We all make personal choices. Some people riot, some protect. It seems faulty to me to refer to all police officers in an insulting manner.
I see the right-wing vermin from Drudge are out in force. Apparently these authoritarian cretins think journalism should be licensed.
The thing is, Josh, you shame them. Not one of these pricks would put themselves in a situation of even mild discomfort for a principle. They’re as weak as they are foolish. Hence their subliterate, adolescent ranting. You just remind them what spineless sheep they are.
A view from the UK.
On one side they were within their legal rights to get the video, and any effective activist should make it their business to know the law.
On the other side I can’t see why the “you got what you deserved” replies can’t see this was a vindictive prosecution.
And it shouldn’t be a question of well go & live in [insert name of oppressive regime] if you don’t like it here. If the US is claiming the moral high ground, then it’s far from adequate to say “we’re bad but not as bad as them”.
And quit knocking the police – they may or may not do something wrong – but their actions in a democratic society are a reflection of what the effective majority of that society want. Don’t go for the easy target – we ‘d notice pretty quickly if the police were not there.
the entire human race should be wiped clean off the face of the earth by robots with rotating knifes for arms. then we will see who is cool and who is not..
seriously tho i did not see anything interesting in this video.. where are the people being shot or burned? i was promised people being hurt and i watched that whole video and never saw any innocent people hurt.. what a fucking rip off..
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I understand the desire to change this world. It’s really a screwed up place to have to live, but with their behavior, these folks are not helping their cause. The are operating with gang mentality and anger. That’s not helping the person being held down by the cop, and it’s not harming the cop. Had they all acted with restraint and decorum throughout the event, their voices might have been heard. Anger turns nearly all listeners deaf, and takes away any valid argument you might have.
Yes, this world needs change. Yes, the people have the right to be heard. Sometimes violent acts and all kinds of vandalism makes a change in the world, but rarely makes a change for the better.
A firm, strong, calm voice is needed. What’s more necessary is the ability to create dialogue rather than a monologue.
Mr. Wolf did what he believed should be done, and he stood up for himself. Right or wrong, he stood for what he believed in. Most posters here can’t claim the same thing. I salute you, Josh.
What an unbelievable collection of ignorant people. Rebels without a clue.
you’re an idiot Josh. you are NOT a journalist, you are a blogger with a video camera. you filmed people destroying property. funny thing is that they were destroying the news paper boxes by dragging them into the streets. so much for protecting our free press, eh? i don’t know anyone dumb enough to go to jail to protect something that you’re not even coming close to protecting.
Thank you for sharing and I hope all goes well. I’m glad you took a stand – it seems this country is being filled up with cowards and idiots and then you go and prove that theory wrong, thank you.
You gotta love the Internet. Where else can Weekend Closet Anarchists spew their propaganda against the “Imperial Capitalists” on a platform that is mostly owned and operated by those same people? I mean seriously, who do you think they are going to call if their house, I mean Mommy and Daddy’s house gets broken into? What about when they get beat up coming back from one of their little protests? I gurantee you they probably have 911 on speed dial! I just think it’s kind of two-faced. That’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it!
Just some food for thought,
That is all!
I swear HIPPIES with their big, bad, tough, down with the man thing. I myself am not the happiest man with regards to how our country has been being run this last administration. I think it’s BS out-sourcing jobs to Sri Lanka and India , but in the real world ,in which I reside, other than writing a pointless letter or even going as far as casting an almost worthless vote , there is not a whole lot more that an Average Joe in this country can do. That being said , to all you stinky Hippies , HOP IN THE SHOWER, THROW ON SOME DEODORANT, SHAVE THE NEST OFF THE FACE (OR FOR THE LADIES) SHAVE THEM LEGS AND PITS , AND GET A DAMN JJJJJJOOOOOOBBBBBB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Believe it or not you’ll find a place that will have no idea about your wacked out thoughts on the Government and what we should do as a nation to bring ourselves together for the betterment of Mother Earth. You spend your week in this place and they give you a check at the end of the week for the time you’ve spent there , it’s nifty little thing and when you’ve been there for a while and have saved up those checks for a little while you can move out of your mothers basement and really wreak havok form the outside world.
I decided to read the posts before watching the video. The posts were so startling that I had to give pause (the video will surely wait). But enough about me.
Why is there so much hostility? Seriously, what is anyone really trying to accomplish when the crux of a message is that human beings who espouse a conflicting (if not conflicted) ideology should be stomped or, much worse, massacred in the vein of the Kent State shootings? And calling people “faggots” while fantasizing about bashing brains with a truncheon? Is this mere venting, or do people honestly believe that (the threat of) violence will lead civilization closer to being civilized?
There is a term for the kind of exchange that hopes to achieve something substantive for the further development of organized society, and it is “discourse.” It involves at least as much listening as it does stating. Used effectively, and people create a bridge. Ignored in favor of ideological grandstanding, and people stomp on their shores, creating a much wider gulf. Something about violence begetting more violence–see Iraq or Somalia.
Save your violence for when it is really needed; spend the meantime trying to figure out when that will be. Then do what you can to prevent that need.
And back to me: I do like kitties, HAY U GAIZ, thanks for asking. Puppies, too. I’m probably missing a joke, but if it makes everyone chill out a little to laugh at poor, ignorant me, it’s worth it.
The first thing that stood out to me in this video was the fact that there was one dude over the age of twenty in the whole fucking thing. That’s the thing about anarchism, it sounds great when you’re young and you don’t have anything to care about. YEAH, CHAOS IN THE STREETS SOUNDS COOL, I’M IN! WHAT CITY ARE WE FUCKING UP THIS WEEK FOR NO REASON GUYS? I bought into it for about five minutes when i realized that change doesn’t come from protests that end in property damage and coercing cops into violence, it comes from focused effort that usually involves buying into the shit you hate. Go out and become a cop, a mayor, a senator, and when you are 50 get together and pass all those laws and bring it down from the inside. Walking around with bandanas over your faces chanting slogans that stinky hippies were chanting 40 years ago just makes you looks foolish and get you arrested, and will result in a life that gets noone any closer to that revolution you talk so much shit about.
But what Josh did wasn’t moronic, though i prolly would have just gave them the tape, fuck jailtime
How impressive a bunch of un-employed spoiled kids “acting” anarchy. Get a job, live in reality for a while, take on some responsibilty. Oh and take a freaking shower.
“Destroy the war machine” Hmm.. is that an oxymoran?
Should have tasered these nut jobs.
Move to Canada “aye”
There’s sumthing about chicks in cowboy/robber bandanas thats kinda sexy
What a bunch of ass clowns… put down the signs, take a long overdue shower, and wake up and smell the organic fair-trade coffee. You have no idea what you are fighting for besides the right to wreck shit, make noise, smell bad and swear at ‘the pigs’.
Get a life losers… What a shame you have nothing better to do than TRY to bring about disruption to garner attention for your cause (whatever that may be). Some day when you’re all grown up… perhaps you’ll look back and realize what a bunch of posers you really were…
WilliamPost is an out and out fascist. Reveal yourself u dog. It’s swine like u that make this country what it is. jelloB- you are even worse. Get your facts together u bumbling boob. Rachel u’re a quasi reverse-sexist, probably sitting on yr economics prof’s lap writing such briliant garble. Thanks to swine like u three, we live in the world’s most hated country. Just wait untill you’re all speaking Chinese. You’ll all be good little red commy’s. Swine!
MAck Bolan you should be ashamed for supporting fascism u pig! Go have another can o beer ya redneck. Laughable, you’re contemptible, that’s all. Your mother should be ashamed and disown the dog u are. TobeyThomaso- they’d never let a cockroach like u into Canada, and if they did, u’d get yr ass kicked so fast you wouldn’t know how to watch yr tv or eat yr jiffy pops anymore. TBone- get a life you puke. Penguin, u’re just a sellout/ traitor. Wherever the hotdog is you’ll be there eh. You’re a treasonable peurile little puke anyway. Get yr fat wife to make ya a hotdog. Orly, get the bong outta yr ass ya scumbag. At least these kids have a little dignity unlike u and the rest of these pro bush dogs. Str8Shooter, u’re about as straight as the shit stain on yr brain. Here’s some food for thought ya little puke. You ever heard of me. Well, you will when we’re all speaking Chinese. You Swine will all be good lil commy’s, suckin oriental dick for brekky, rather than your father Bush’s. At least these kids have little dignity to go out there and try a little dissent. You ever heard of dissent you fascists? You’re contemptable pigs. Just wait till we’re all speaking Chinese. You’ll be great at it! Fucking losers! How do you think a semblance of equal rights/ gender rights have come about? Certainly not b/c of lowly dogs like u. In fact, u were probably wearin your hoods and beatin yr wives when that was going on. Have another burger, cola, and some mnore foz news. You dolts are just getting thoroughly brilliant out there. And get practicing your Chinese you dogs! you’ll need it!
There is plety of value in this video for law enforcement. Your rights to play reporter end where violent crime begins. Now that you have sold out to beg for money to pay your legal bills, I hope the people who own those newspaper stands find the violent criminals who damaged their property. I see plenty of crimes being committed and you are proud of them? How about a ticket to cuba for all you communists? You sounded pretty bold when you were asking the police if you could stand on the sidewalk. Another californian who thinks the rules aern’t made for him, Robert Blake, had a saying, IF YOU CAN”T DO THE TIME DON”T DO THE CRIME. Who could you possibly expect to let you interview them when the raw footage ends up on the internet? JOIN THE CLUB SELLOUT!!!!!!!!!!! We will see real Anarchy on the last day!! SEE YOU IN HELL!
There is PLENTY of value in this video for law enforcement. Your rights to play reporter end where violent crime begins. Now that you have sold out to beg for money to pay your legal bills, I hope the people who own those newspaper stands find the violent criminals who damaged their property. I see plenty of crimes being committed and you are proud of them? How about a ticket to cuba for all you communists? You sounded pretty bold when you were asking the police if you could stand on the sidewalk. Another californian who thinks the rules aern’t made for him, Robert Blake, had a saying, IF YOU CAN”T DO THE TIME DON”T DO THE CRIME. Who could you possibly expect to let you interview them when the raw footage ends up on the internet? JOIN THE CLUB SELLOUT!!!!!!!!!!! We will see real Anarchy on the last day!! SEE YOU IN HELL!
Josh, Elvis Presley called, can you return his sideburns?
Can the rest of you illiterate, ignorant anarchists please get real jobs and a life?
Haha Elvis’s mom. Does anyone else see the irony of a big bad anarchist supporter having his mom fight his battles for him?
Are you kidding me?
Hi, I’m Liz Wolf-Spada, Josh’s mom. Although the July 20th hearing seemed promising, today the judge, Judge Alsop ruled against all motions including 5th amendment rights, rights coming under freedom of the press, against bail or a stay. Josh is in Dublin federal prison, in the East Bay area of the San Francisco Bay. I don’t have any other information at this time, but his lawyer is planning to file an appeal to the federal 9th circuit court. That filing alone costs almost $500, so if you can donate any little bit helps with the expenses of legal counsel and money for Josh while in jail. If you believe in prayer or good thoughts please send them to Josh. Thanks,
Get a life Azzy! Who gives a fuck about paper boxes that are selling you your chicken feed pro bush news. Get your fucking doltish head out of the big pointy white hood you wear, or rather your ass and get a clue. You and your paper boxes don’t have a good piss in the wind against the countless nation that your beloved goverment is destroying as you wank. What about the banana republic, Asia, the Middle East? Your government has destroyed more people’s lives (YES, that is lives – not paperboxes you FOOL), then tv programs you’ll watch in your wasted life. Think about that one! Don’t even worry about Cuba. You’ll be speaking Chinese and sucking their despot’s dick rather then bush’s. You’ll be a good dirty little Chinese red. Get fucked!
http://www.freekareem.org/
If you really want a blogger to defend, I don’t think this one has any videos of violent punks.
I guess you are a momma’s boy too huh Karl?
Learned that grammar in public school I am sure, you ignorant piece of crap.
PS,
Try to think of your own lines, don’t just repeat the words I said. That is all you brainwashed glue heads know how to do isn’t it?>
Azzy,
What brilliant lines you have to copy. They should promote you to bush’s right hand cocksucker. You’d be great. Then you can learn your Chinese later on and be a good little commy bastard when they take over your blessed despotic nation. You’re clearly fascist and should be pissed on and feathered. Put your head back in your pointy white hood ya wife beater. Talk about brainwashed. Go watch some more news ya pro bush fascist. Our country is hated the world over b/c of cowards like you. The US is going down faster than you can pull your local police chief off. And get fucked fascist.
What a pathetic parrot! I don’t need to get fucked, your mother begs for it all the time!
No wonder the police lock up and beat assholes like you! More power to them!
Billions of assholes just like you are sworn to destroy Israel. T WTC BOMBINGS show what your crowd will do. When you lay down in shit, you stink like the turds you are! America love it or leave it!!!
Is it Bush’s fault you slimey turds didn’t learn anything in school but how to sniff glue and be assholes?
Is is Bush’s fault you will never amount to any more than the worthless piece of crap you are?
Is it Bush’s fault these dipshits on this video can’t even put together a complete sentence and don’t have a fucking clue when their stupid movement began?
Is it Bush’s fault that you take it up the ass because you can’t get a date??
why is it that the majority of trash spewing people on this blog are so obviously liberals? josh, you went to jail for these pathetics wannabes? grow up, move out of your moms basement and get a real job. i actually took the time to look at the rest of your website and all i can say is, pathetic and and amatuerish drivel { i suggest that those who are interested go and look at his photos of his trip to mexico… my 8th grade neice takes better pictures with her camera phone} .. looking for donations and using capitalist paypal to do so ??? need i say more ? either truly commit to what you are expousing or shut up and stop wasting bandwith…
Let’s not look at how these people dress, how they look or talk. Let’s look at what they are trying to do. Have you ever tried doing what they are doing? It is not easy to successfully accomplish an ideal. It is difficult to stay focused and organized when you are right inside the thing. These kids are out there and they’re doing what is their life-given right. That is to actively organize and oppose injustice. Do you know what the G8 Summits are? Do you know what the 8 are up to during their little discussions? Do you know what Globalized Economic Hegemony entails? You should. They are deciding the next year and epoch for you my friends. Are you buying in? Get original, authentic, let go of the idiot tube, and your brainwashing newspapers, and have a look at life for an honest perspective. People are generally good. Hegemonic machines for governments, hell-bent on absolute world domination are not good. A many good lot of you could use a long walk in nature. A fresh perspective.
Anyways, One police officer gets a fractured skull during an altercation of violence, of which he always instigates and the feds are up in arms. The cops crack heads all the time at those meetings. They fracture limbs as well. If the protesters weren’t kicked away from where they were, not causing any harm, they would have stayed a while and expressed their views. I hear the word democracy a lot, but who practices around here? So this poor kid out there with a camcorder (bless those things- what would cops really do if they thought they weren’t being watched!) gets demanded by the feds to give them his equipment, his footage, names, addresses etc? He says no out of principle, and he gets hard time. Look at that footage? There is nothing. Poor guy, good principles. It says a lot about a character.
What principles? He publushed a video of his “friends” committing wanton crimes just ti save his own skin. He is a sell out. I can see all I need about the character of this group from the potty mouth little turds who post here.
Excuse me, when can I tell Elvis to expect his sideburns back?
A couple of summers ago I attended an anarchist rally in Palo Alto (30 miles south of SF, home of Stanford University) on the main drag in town (University Ave).
I attended because I wanted to hear what this segment of our political population had to say about the issues of the day (mainly but not only the war) so I could learn and judge for myself.
I only wish I had a video camera and the courage of Josh Wolf to have documented what I saw that day:
There were about 75-100 protesters gathered in the square, giving speeches and generally interacting like any other protests in the square (they happen quite regularly there, all kinds of political and religious groups proselytize there).
One thing I was surprised at: Unlike other demonstrations I have attended there, this one reflected the demographics of our area. White, black, yellow, brown, and every color in between. Ages ranged from about 15 to 80, evenly distributed. Remarkable!
One other small thing was noticeable at this non-event.
The police presence outnumbered the protesters and probably the additional spectators like me, maybe by a factor of at least 2 to one. News reports ahead of and after the demonstration indicated that cops from every jurisdiction in the Bay Area (population at that time ~ 6 million) would be present to maintain order.
And they did show up from everywhere as their uniforms and minimal coordination attested.
University Avenue, a high rent shopping district, was closed down that evening by local cops (”cherry tops”), county cops, sheriffs, and state cops. The cops marched in semi-great precision, sealing off both ends of the street and every cross street while the speakers, inciting no one, spoke on the square.
The cops carried automatic rifle type weapons, truncheons, riot gear. their formations were backed by more armed cops on horses and motorcycles, and even air support in the form of helicopters with loudspeakers ordering the public to disperse.
Among the most heavily fortified locations on University was the front of the Starbucks, where riot cops stood arm in arm across the entire front of the store.
I will never forget standing but a step away from them, incredulous at their behavior, looking around and seeing no protesters as they were all still in the square, not yet forced into the street by advancing cops.
No, I will never forget the family sitting at the table in the window, Mom, Dad, and a little girl about 8 years old, frightened beyond belief at the behavior of the cops, whom she had no doubt been taught are her friends, but instead who were but a step away from her aiming guns and threatening people.
A half block or so further up, the lines of riot cops backed by horses were forming. As they were being ordered to stand still, for a while some of them were willing to talk while “manning” their post. Most I talked to exhibited shame at what they were being asked to do.
Also unforgettable was the young (to me anyway) Vietnamese cop, who clearly understood the discord between what he was doing as “part of his job” at that moment, and the history of the land where he was born and what brought his family to the US in the first place. He was VERY uneasy about being forced to aim a automatic rifle down a street he probably shopped on many times, with no other danger in sight then the other cops aiming back in his direction from above, from the sides and other end.
It was very tense. And all so unnecessary. At the time I only wished I had the foresight to to have brought flowers to place in the barrels of all those guns.
Now I wish I had the balls of Josh Wolf, and I hope next time he brings his camera, and someone *is* there with flowers to put peacefully in the barrels of the guns. Those pictures will be worth more then a thousand words, and they will surely pay his legal bills too.
I was reminded of a line from a song that, and writing about this now, I am reminded again:
“When they kick out your front door, how ya gonna come?”
I say to all readers here: Look to Josh Wolf as an example if you are ever faced with that question, and if you are never faced with it, then thank Josh Wolf and others like him every day when you wake up.
I just love this blog.
And I love all the people who write in INSISTING they are not being fucked by the state. Ask a Black man or woman.
White people are so good at insisting that the state is not screwing them while they screw the world.
Anarchy defined is simply the least amount of government possible is best, Anarchy developed into a us vs them social philosophy but then violence as usual reared its ugly head from both sides, and this tape proves 140 years later man has not changed, he uses violence to make his point and he uses violence to control others..What fools these mortals be for they know not what they do!
What a bunch of losers! Those punk assed kids crying that it’s their streets. And then being destructive. Well, gee I can see how they would benefit us. Get a clue and get your heads out of your asses. It is really too bad the police were as patient as they were. What the hell is with them hiding their faces. Isn’t this something that they believe in? Sounds like a bunch of low life ne’er do wells who needs their asses beat!
Eight months in jail? Couldn’t you find a better first amendment protection issue to risk contempt? How about the Imus issue?
How about the “F” word: FREEDOM from judges in black dresses?
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In response to a couple comments near the top. It is reap what you sow. You sow seeds and then reap the harvest.
What is wrong with these people? Are u kidding me with this? This is exactly why America is so great, because it gives idiots like this the right to go out and support rediculous things (until they get violent and destructive). Law enforcement deserves to be paid much more then they are for having to deal with this kind of crap.
I wonder how long this post will be here before it is deleted for not agreeing with the cause
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Interesting comment here on the case of Californian video-blogger Josh Wolf, who has just been released after spending six months in jail for refusing to hand over his film of a demonstration and refusing to testify before a grand jury…….
You guys are a bunch of retards. Anarchy=Chaos. Wake up and get a job. You yell at the cops but they are the first ones you will call when you are getting your asses kicked. Your opinions on anarchy only show how truly ignorant you are. The fact that you can even spout your stupidity is based on the freedoms granted to you by the freedom of speech. Try going to Russia or Iraq and pulling this. Show some respect for those who’s lives were lost to give you your precious freedom of speech. For a bunch of people who want to spout anarchy and how good it is you really did a great job of proving why it isn’t an answer for anything.
Funny video though. Like watching the special olympics on parade. Your parents should be punished for raising worthless pieces of shit like you.
You are completely ridiculous. You got what you deserved, and now the country has a bill for what it cost to prosecute your dumb ass. How about you get a real job and next time (We all know for you there will be a next time) you can ignorantly protect these flunky activists with real journalist credentials. Not to say that your own personal website isn’t a legitimate news outlet, but I would say you should leave it to the professionals.
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Gosh, for all the intellectuals complaining at the top about spoiled West-Coast kids who need to go back and finish their public high school educations, you sure are pathetic at spelling. Is that because Language Arts class was replaced with Creationism where you’re from?
Oh, MAN I’m glad I’m out of touch with “Amurrican values.” And to the majority of the people who posted up top, please don’t come to San Francisco, but if you must, kindly restrict your presence to the Hooters and McD’s at Pier 39. The rest of the City’s pretty scary.
so what happened josh? You ended up showing the tape… did all that prison dick in your ass change your mind?
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just the first few seconds when the kids are tryin to explain anarchism, it’s history, was enough for me to turn off the fucking video. not that one should be dogmatic about anarchy/anarchism for that seems to be erroneous to the spirit of anarchy and permanent insurrection, yet if one is going to speak of any subject, one should have the facts straight, just as to protest capitalism, one should understand it’s history and how it functions in order to fight it.
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It was very tense. And all so unnecessary. At the time I only wished I had the foresight to to have brought flowers to place in the barrels of all those guns.
Now I wish I had the balls of Josh Wolf, and I hope next time he brings his camera, and someone *is* there with flowers to put peacefully in the barrels of the guns. Those pictures will be worth more then a thousand words, and they will surely pay his legal bills too.
I was reminded of a line from a song that, and writing about this now, I am reminded again:
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Great job mate.
It makes me very annoyed when people choose to write comments of no constructive value what so ever. You try to prove a point but instead you act like a simpleton bully over half the time.
He had the right to keep his property to himself. They evidence they where looking for was already on mainstream T.V. not to mention Josh did not even have thus evidence. However since he refused he was put into jail.
It’s like if your asked to see whats in your pocket and you say no. They arrest you for some minimal charge only to find you had nothing to begin with. It’s rediculous how the legal system works half the time.
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Interesting comment here on the case of Californian video-blogger Josh Wolf, who has just been released after spending six months in jail for refusing to hand over his film of a demonstration and refusing to testify before a grand jury…….
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Congratulations Josh. In the words of Voltaire “I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it”. How courageous of you to express your right to freedom and decline to supply your video. I suspect this was not an easy journey, but reflective of strong values and principles on your part about those liberties that are so easily strongarmed by institutions set up under hegemonic power. Again, congratulations.
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